Still no GPT-4 API access

I don’t think there is an “official” definition of what a developer is, but I think it’s fair to say that if you use the API for building products, you are now a “developer”. I think it would be impossible to detect someone building software around the API and someone just using the API to get around the usage limits on ChatGPT, as long as you are using the services regularly… I’d say that counts.

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I’m a developer (stackoverflow .com/users/10133797/overlordgolddragon). I don’t use OpenAI regularly because GPT3.5 is insufficient for my needs, and I won’t spam tokens for X minutes a day since I value my time.

That’s my money that OpenAI won’t be getting. It’s also wasteful since someone could be using ChatGPT for memeing or other non-dev stuff and have no real need for GPT4, while actual devs are still waiting.

Consider adding an explicit registration, and prioritizing registrants. Regardless, thanks for clarifying.

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Who said that GPT-4 is a developer tool? Why do you think that personal entertainment is less worthwhile than what you work at?

A bizarre sentiment from someone coding for 30 years. The answer is obvious enough that the only question is in reverse - how is personal entertainment as worthwhile as scientific computing? Nobody’s saying bar GPT4 for good - but if there’s need to prioritize, the way is clear.

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I could probably talk hours about that. But think of it like there are two humans and both are worth the same.

Sounds pretty strange, I know.

One has the priority to work on whatever is so important to bring humanity into the next era and the other equaly important person is just chillin after a day in an elderly care where someone died with his hands on the head and now needs some way to work through it and creates memes on GPT-4…

I’d say your “scientific” programming can wait.

Human worth has nothing to do with this. Hospital beds are reserved for the sick, not those who have a kink to lie with needles injected. You want memes, scroll Reddit or watch YouTube.

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The point on “emotional support” in form of conversation, which cannot be acquired elsewhere, is valid, and indeed it may not wait unlike computing. I’ve seen stories of it helping people. But I don’t see why GPT-3.5 isn’t sufficient for that, nor know whether such needs are common enough to justify completely randomizing access.

Regardless, this isn’t on-topic - it appears OpenAI’s policy is to prioritize developers, and I am but pointing that they don’t appear to be actually delivering on it. If OpenAI wants to prioritize no one, then let them say so.

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Well, here is another chance (if your research might have any impact and you think you meet the standards of ethical usage):

The process is like this: you get microsoft certified, open a company, apply for microsoft partner company, then ask for a meeting with microsoft ai team and fill the first application. After ~4 weeks you should get an appointment and have to wait ~2-4 weeks to get access to GPT-3.5. Then you fill the second form and after ~6 weeks you get a message like this:

I can’t tell if it’s satire.

I’m doing no groundbreaking research. My point is all scientific compute that makes any progress should get priority over general use. For this there can be much simpler registration, no need to “open a company”. If you disagree with my point, that’s fine.

If you meant to provide me an alternative way to access GPT-4 early, then thanks.

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I didn’t. I tried my best on sounding as sarcastic as possible to the kind of thoughts that makes you guys believe that anything exists that makes your existence more important than the one of anyone else.
Your scientific work might be valuable for yourself, so what? Does it solve time travel? No? Then no thank you. I don’t need it.

I did not set the scientific computing and memes on the same plane.

I just put the people who do that on the same plane.

Just because you are whatever you are doesn’t mean you get anything that others don’t. Why should that be? Because what you do is more important (to whom btw?)? Who said that this is of any relevance?

“No need to incur billing” is no longer correct How to Deposit $1 for GPT-4 8k API Access? - #10 by Foxabilo

ChatGPT4 Access (August 1st) - #18 by tillmann worked for me

Hi Collegue’s,

Is there any progress on roll out tot GPT4. As I’m waiting for professional use in analytics but also as setup and development as AI assistant.

Thank You

Hi, I have also been waiting quite a while, my question is - how would I even know if I already have access or not? I have been waiting for an email but is there another way to tell if I have access?

Thank you

Hi and welcome to the Developer Forum!

If you go to the play ground here OpenAI Platform and click on the “Model” drop down on the righthand side you can then click on the show more option at the bottom for a full list of models you have access to.

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Thanks. I actually followed the advice in another post and cancelled my subscription. Restarted added $5 to the account and now I have GPT 4 api access. Wish I had know this months ago :slight_smile:

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The prepayment system didn’t exist more than a month ago…

Were one to have been actually using enough API to have gotten a previous bill, you would have been granted gpt-4 with the general availability announcement in July.

Hi,

Thank you kindly for that clarification. Guess it is all divine timing that I now have access.

Now, it is possible to buy pre-paid credits from your “normal” billing plan. I just did it for 5$, and the next second, I had the access. No need to switch plan (it is not even possible as there is only one plan?), just buy credits. So, the problem is finally solved, but I’m extremely unhappy with this “user experience”. They should at least communicate all these things clearly on the website instead of giving long outdated info.