What happened to the CEO topic? (now: daily "who's the CEO" update)

Let us sing kumbaya together. :smile:

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Meanwhile … there’s no actual “magic” involved with creating an LLM, the technique is mostly open source and there are plenty of commercial competitors gearing up … so Open AI needs to get its act together fast or it will all be over.

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so Open AI needs to get it’s act together fast or it will all be over.

With at most 50 people left that will be pretty hard, I suppose.

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Lawyers are coming out. No wonder the board is completely silent. They know they cannot admit fault.

I give a lot of respect to Ilya for changing his position. He seems to be the only remaining board member that truly cares for the future of AI.

One person at a venture fund with a stake in OpenAI said “legal action could come as soon as tomorrow”, without specifying what form that would take. But according to a person with direct knowledge of the negotiations, as of Monday night the board remained resolute and was prepared to test employees’ willingness to quit.

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Yeah this is getting interesting. It’s possible that we could find a way forward today, or this might head towards legal complexities.

747 people have now signed the letter to the board, and yesterday, the vice president of Global Affairs (Anna Makanju) sent out an internal memo with the main message being: we’re still focused on reunifying OpenAI. More talks are happening this morning.

This all seems to depend on one board member, who isn’t convinced yet, after his merger idea with Anthropic was turned down yesterday.

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It seems to me that they are doing everything they can to justify their cause and “working in the best interest of the company”.

So far it’s been evident that they’re working against the best interests of 95% of the company, and stakeholders.

Merging with Anthrophic would have been an easy out, “look guys, see, we actually were worried about safety, as our mission statements says!”

Yeah pretty much, I’m mostly curious how long it will take for openAI to get back together, I don’t really see other options at the moment :laughing:

It’s so frustrating to watch.

“No! We shattered the hull of the ship and are taking massive amounts of water for your benefit!”, said the 1 to the 99%

I am worried that as soon as the lawyers are brought out it will be indefinite. Seriously brutal. I was so excited for Assistants and GPTs. Now I wonder how long it will be before they can even pick them up again and continue.

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OpenAI is done imho. This was the acid test for the company governance structure and we can all see how that worked out.

The benevolence and wisdom of the board was once touted as an asset… Well, clearly it wasn’t as novel and useful as was advertised.

Unless they completely rewrite the organization’s charter, bylaws, etc. this company (research org with a cancerous business growth?) is probably toast.

Either way, if we are left with a skeleton crew of decels, I’ll be taking my company’s money elsewhere… C’est la vie.

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OpenAI is nothing without it’s people, and right now <95% of them stand united and ready to bounce at a moments notice.

Some of them have visas that depends on their employment status, so I’m assuming this will be solved in a matter of days/weeks or we’ll see everyone move over to “OpenAI @ Microsoft” :laughing:

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Which makes this statement:

as of Monday night the board remained resolute and was prepared to test employees’ willingness to quit.

So much worse. They know what some employees have on the line.

It’s so easy to work towards a “beneficial future for humanity” until it requires going against self-gain and self-preservation.

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True, that sounds bad.

But before we all get riled up, it’s worth noting that it’s the financial times interpretation of things, and while I do agree with that interpretation, it seems like oversimplifying it a fair bit.

Try getting into the head of someone who launched a competing platform based on the same product, and now finds themselves at odds with everyone who made it.

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100% agreed. All we can go off is the words of random people.

There hasn’t still been any sort of official statement for Sam being ousted sides not being “consistently candid” in communication, which I think is really causing the drama to prolong.

I never even bothered with AI before I learned of OpenAI. It led me to seriously consider programming and start learning ReactJS less than a year ago along with Rust. So I’m definitely very emotionally invested :sweat_smile:

I’m sure there are so many variables that we don’t know of.

It’s like being late and waiting for the bus. Some way it is near impossible to not constantly check the schedule like it actually somehow will change the time the bus will actually arrive.

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Yeah I have the exact same feeling, I’m hoping the bus will arrive soon though :sweat_smile:

In the meantime we can puzzle together citations from various sources to establish a ground truth, or at least something that’s better than wild speculation :laughing:

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Id be happy if the board just reinstated the Sam and the dedicated team that have gained our trust.

Exactly, but magic is there, its in the people that built it. Wonder if the board get them Apples.

The key player in all of this is Ilya, imho. He has the moral authority to incinerate OpenAI as a co-founder who’s early recruitment seriously helped spark OpenAI.

Leaving a safe job at Google to join a non profit open source company was a big leap of faith on his part. It is his baby, at least in part.

Not that it matters anything, but I personally supported his right to do what he did. My only complaint was that he should have offloaded ChatGPT to MSFT/investors rather than fire Sam.

After the above, now Ilya is in a very unique position to help fix all of this. The above was a profoundly good start, but given the fact that he’s the only one on the board with any real moral authority, he could perhaps do more publicly to rectify his error.

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my low effort meme (supposed to represent a board)

It seems the results were not what he intended. The destruction of OpenAI was not his goal. I think things are out of his hands now.

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Nah, tbh I think Ilya was one of the first the speak candidly about what happened, and he ended up getting most of the flag for what was a decision by the board as a whole.

Ilya has since regretted being part of this, and if him and Sam can put this behind them, so can I :laughing:

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