I just got the “premium” to compare and got slapped with messages cap. This truly suck. Not renewing.
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This should be illegal. When purchasing, I didn’t see mention of a limit anywhere. Cancelled my renewal.
Not really, you did accept OpenAI’s TOS.
The reality is that the majority of my messages are to try to fix what GPT-4 is doing wrong. I ‘spend’ all of my messages back and forth trying to get it to do what I asked for in the first prompt. My message cap should not be used when it keeps giving me incorrect responses. For example, I spent all of my message cap trying to get it to create a simple two word image. It kept misspelling the words. Now I have to wait 3 hours and try again.
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Chat GPT 4 limitations is a joke. I haven’t used it at all the last few weeks to use it today and be restricted. I would say about 70% of my requests had a network disconnection on ChatGPT’s end. How many of these responses were classed as a message? I’m using it since the first offering of a paid plan and feel it’s only gotten worse since then.
Totally agree. I had the same issue just now. Constantly telling it to fix a repeated task that ut initially completed fine and once I asked to repeat the task with new information I ended up having to tell it to read back on previous answers in the thread. Most of my limit wasted on simple instruction fixes. Frustrating. Time to move to BARD I reckon. Tried to actually contribute to openAI by going paid from day 1. Disappointed!
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I feel the same. I just upgraded, did a few tests and boom, can’t use it anymore. Did around 25 questions.
The limitation is not mentioned in the sales pitch to upgrade. Feels like a scam.
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If you have ever attempted to run a local AI you will understand how much computational power is needed to run a model such as GPT-4 and how much high-end computers that can run it cost.
With an estimated 3+ million requests being sent a day they need to limit people so that more users can access it. Even if you don’t use GPT-4 I would still recommend upgrading just for the faster unlimited GPT-3.5.
Currently, I have a cap of 50 messages every 3 hours after the latest update, which removed plugins, so it seems they have just been upping the rate limit.
I’m not going to lie, I kinda ran head first into the brick wall of question limits when working on the custom GPT I was working on, I was in such a state of flow and was very much a record scratch in my head XD I wish there was a plan that allows me to use it more.
They do say this:
I provided an alternate solution with a longer window, that in your particular case, would have allowed you to continue your nonstop engagement with ChatGPT were it to be implemented. You are not in favor of something that would have given you immediate benefit?
It doesn’t matter anyway: OpenAI has removed language about how many “inputs” you get per time from ChatGPT Plus’ GPT-4. This means they could use whatever algorithm they want to prevent abusers in the future, rather than a strict and disclosed system. They also would have the ability to consider the computational complexity and internal iterations being employed in answering inputs, or whatever other solution gives unfair use of subscription a penalty.
A potential cap that is not CLEARLY stated to Free users before their upgrade.
Free
- “Unlimited messages, interactions, and history”
Everything in Free, and:
- “Access to GPT-4, our most capable model”
Nothing states that GPT-4 has a limit. As an end user I expect that in Free I have unlimited messages, interactions and history and what comes to Plus plan I also get unlimited messages as stated and access to GPT-4. Shouldn’t it be stated that GPT-4 has limits, even though I get unlimited messages, interactions and history with the Free plan?
So is there a limit, or is there not a limit? As far as I’m concerned, there is no limit. It’s not clearly stated. I had a subscription, but I basically let it run out. I don’t feel comfortable with limits. Rather than paying $20 in advance to get 40 messages in 3 hours, I’d rather pay per message.
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https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7102672-how-can-i-access-gpt-4
You can do that here: platform.openai.com/playground After you set up your billing information you can use the playground (linked above) or a custom UI to communicate with GPT-4. You will only be charged for the number of messages you send it. You can see pricing here: Pricing, but one of the biggest downsides is that it has no memory of previous chats unless you program it to, and then you pay for not only your current message but every message above.
Again, it comes down to whether you think it is clearly expressed and easily accessible. If I am in the role of end user in the chat window and I would like to buy a Plus subscription so where in the order process does it clearly state that it has a cap?
In practice, you have to open the Help article separately to find out that it has a cap, unlike with a quick order from that window, it lets you assume something completely different until Plus is unlocked and cap text appears on the screen.
In my opinion this is misleading advertising to get more subscribers.
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same story - won’t pay for it anymore, 22,99€ per month for couple of questions a day - not ha;py at all
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This is absolutely an issue. Especially when the responses you get are not exactly helpful or they are simply wrong.
I use GPT-4 to assist with game design, primarily table top, which requires a great deal of text and rule balancing. Often times, GPT-4 is used to work out systems in theory so that we can catch the larger pitfalls and incongruencies. You can imagine how quickly we hit our usage caps.
I would happily pay more if such an option existed.
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Where is OpenAI’s response to these comments? I’m genuinely curious if a resolution is in the works.
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Honestly yah, please do something about this chat limits, some of us are literally willing to pay for higher rates, whether that be through surge pricing or even just a higher monthly cost.
If you could even change the structure so instead of 40msg/3hours it’s 80msg/6hours, as many of us only need it for specific usage intensive times that would be extremely beneficial as well
Limiting the message cap is really painful, and is making me think of switching over to other AI solutions.,
(Seems I can’t post links so I nerfed the urls in my original reply)
Just bumped into this for the first time today.
Looking at that link (posted a few replies up by grandell1234) it seems the wording has been updated now to specify that its dynamic:
ChatGPT Plus subscribers will get GPT-4 access on chat openai com with a usage cap. We will dynamically adjust the exact usage cap depending on demand and system performance in practice. As of January 5th 2024, GPT-4 has a rate limit of 40 messages every 3 hours. Please note that unused messages do not accumulate (i.e. if you wait 6 hours, you will not have 80 messages available to use for the next 3 hours). In certain cases, we may dynamically adjust the message limit in order to prioritize making GPT-4 accessible to the widest number of people.
I actually have my time tracker going so I know that I’ve only been working for 2hrs today.
Out of curiosity I just scrolled up through the whole chat log and I’ve asked 17 total questions today, unless they have some alternative definition of messages.
Nothing on status openai com either.
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I just subscribed to ChatGPT plus 80 minutes ago and actually used it for about an hour and suddenly the usage cap was applied. Not impressed by this. First you need to say up front that there is a usage cap and when and how it is applied. You also need to give advance warning when the user is close to breaching the cap and the cap needs to be much higher. In most subscription services users are unaware of the limits in place snd only very high usage users breach them. In summary, you were quick to take my money and even quicker to apply a restriction cap- TOTALLY UNIMPRESSED and I’ll be letting everyone I know about this.
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