You’re saying this as if you know who these people are, we don’t truly know him more than we know Mira, we don’t even know why they nailed him to the cross.
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Keep building, let them keep building.
Companies and organisations are intricate, however human relations and thoughts more so.
Best not to guess and rely on official statements. Hope the best minds gathered together continue making sound decision. Back to code 
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MICROSOFT needs to hire Altman and Brockman!
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Strange that Altman was just at Microsoft Ignite! and everything was fine. Now, today, I can’t get it to generate ANY images.
I think MICROSOFT should hire Altman and Brockman.
Moderators everywhere
Also for Sam and Greg
https://www.axios.com/2023/11/18/openai-memo-altman-firing-malfeasance-communications-breakdown
The board seriously messed up. “Breakdown in communication” is not an excuse for calling someone a liar so publicly and scaring your 100s of millions of users thinking something bad happened, like a security leak.
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I think that, without knowing exactly why they were removed from their positions, it’s a little premature to be suggesting anyone hire anyone.
To the best of my knowledge Sam Altman doesn’t have any particular bona fides that would make him an extraordinary hire for an AI team in terms of product.
While he, no doubt, learned a great deal during his tenure at OpenAI, he’s a business person not an AI person.
TBH though, if Sam goes on to create another AI company and pull out the openai engineers - I’m pretty sure he provoked this.
Sam is a very experienced player and he was working with a very inexperienced board. He likely knew the exact buttons to push to get them to overreact.
I mean, zero equity in what could be the most important company in the history of mankind. Can’t imagine that it was sitting well. The narrative here is all in his favor.
While he, no doubt, learned a great deal during his tenure at OpenAI, he’s a business person not an AI person.
Sam is a hyper bright guy that can navigate the corridors of power with great sophistication. For something like AI, you need someone like that as your point man.
Who’s going to do that now? OpenAI just lost their seat at the table.
I think it’s too early to tell if the board messed up or not.
Remember, the board is a board of a non-profit that just happens to own a capped-profit subsidiary, their priorities are quite a bit different than that of a for-profit board of directors.
If Altman was doing something as CEO of the subsidiary that was counter to the mission of the parent non-profit, then the board was absolutely justified (and may have, in fact, been required) to remove Altman from his position.
Strong doubt.
You said it yourself,
OpenAI isn’t going to have any difficulty attracting talent.
Everyone here is acting as if this was a sudden, knee-jerk decision by the board because no one saw it coming.
Four people on the board voted Altman and Brockman out, for reasons which I’m sure will become more clear as time goes on.
The Chief Operating Officer literally said ‘breakdown in communications between Sam and the Board’
https://www.axios.com/2023/11/18/openai-memo-altman-firing-malfeasance-communications-breakdown
Are you suggesting that he’s lying or that the board lied to him?
No.
What I’m suggesting is that depending on the nature and scope of the communications breakdown, then that is absolutely worth firing Altman for.
What would you do if you had an employee who refused to communicate productively with you?
It’s very disconcerting especially after what I felt was a strong performance at the OpenAI Developer Conference. It seemed like big things were coming. Now, it makes me a bit worried that they’re going to promote someone who feels the need to either nickle and dime everything or someone who’s more of a mad man when it comes to emerging tech. (Take that to mean whoever you may think it means.) But this whole piece of news just seems to come out of left field.
Also why do we pay for GPT 4 if we can’t use it for more than 40 messages every three hours? (Seems like OpenAI has bigger problems there… Since about 1/3 of those messages turn in to “Network Errors”.) Seems like before worrying about a he said/they said controversy OpenAI as a whole needs to fix their infrastructure regarding computing power… Not people power.
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Whether it was right to fire Sam or not is a very difficult question that has a long history to address.
What I do know is this
- If the COO was not lying / wasn’t mislead, than the PR they issued was a clusterfrick beyond belief.
- OpenAI has lost their seat at the table. It’s unclear they will be able to regain it. I have a hard time imagining anyone seriously talented at that level is going to want to report to a board that handle something like that in such a manner.
It’s also unclear that Ilya even wants OpenAI to be what it is - building an AI like GPT4 pushing the boundaries of capability. Certainly his fellow board members don’t seem all that excited about powerful AGI.
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It is quite interesting understanding how the OpenAI vision will be different now
Ahhh… but they can. Anyone can. In a free market, that’s what you get.
No one can guarantee you turf without competition. Often, core vendors wipe out aftermarket vendors. This happens in all aspects of software, automotive, electronics, and even space vehicles and satellites.
Unfortunately, you don’t get to decide what they may (or may not) do. They, like all businesses, will decide how best to earn revenues and pay salaries.
This is the nature of aftermarket innovators. It’s risky, and it could vanish in an instant.
We want Sam Altman back as CEO of OpenAI. Thank you.
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I agree. We need the team to come back together. Please board hit the ctrl z and undue the damage.
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Yeah no shit. But is it in their best interest to wipe out the people who are creating with their products? We are the one’s who would end up paying the most. And I believe that’s basically the exact problem with whats going on internally is that some people didn’t want to go in the direction of creating products but rather supplying the AI and letting developers do the rest.
Yeah thanks for the life lesson on interacting with others mom. Thanks man I’m not confused on what someone CAN and CAN’T do. I can go run around naked, but now we’re just stating things that are obvious.
We’re not JUST aftermarket innovators. This is like a new type of electricity and you can do things that are incredible with it.
We’re the market innovators. This is a source of energy. If they CHOOSE to treat it that way, which is my vote that they do.