Poe and gpt4-32k legit or scam?

Hey there,

just a short question. I saw several post about the topic gpt4-32k and that the website poe.com would provide access to this model. But its hard for me to believe it because it would undermine open ai’s strategy to expand the access while they increase their resources.

So is it scam or is it legit? Did someone a test?

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While I’m not certain, I’ve come across several comments suggesting it might be a scam.

Since GPT-4-32k is still in its Alpha or early beta phase and access is limited to a select few for testing, I’m inclined to believe it’s not legitimate.

:smile: Poe is actually a legitimate endeavour, it’s from the team that makes Quora. Yes it is legitimate so far as I understand it and it’s being ran on their dedicated instance.

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Ahh yes,
Now that you mentioned it, that does ring a bell :laughing:

Quora, the place where the real questions go:


It’s Yahoo! Answers for the next generation…


Poe is one of a select few partners with OpenAI, Anthropic, and others that are big players in the reseller market, like snap, perplexity.ai, or forefront.ai. Been doing chat before ChatGPT, and a tier far beyond us - likely able to make a phone call to OpenAI.

For $200/year, you are looking at prices similar to ChatGPT Plus, while not having the same feature set as ChatGPT such as plugins, code interpreter, custom prompt (while instead having cringe-inducing personalities to chat with).

The subscription allows you Claude and other open source AI they run.

(Poe deceptively and confusingly uses the “ChatGPT” service mark, while not having the identical conversation history management as ChatGPT - which could be an advantage)

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I just got an account on poe com and tried using the gpt 4 … But it is not using gpt 4 BUT gpt 3. It is a scam. The response says it is gpt 3 and last trained 2021.

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I just tried poe and gpt 4. It responds the it is actually using gpt 3. Complete scam. Signed upl and tried it… Maybe it is just temporary but I canceled poe and let them know. Just think the old director at openai should’ve made sure it actually used gpt 4. Time pst 645 pm.

Poe is still using GPT-4-8k which has a knowledge cut of date of September 2021, if you asked it what it’s name is or what version it is then it cannot possibly give you the correct answer as GPT-4 did not exist at that moment in time.

The difference when using ChatGPT-4 is that it is now using a more up to date model and it is also told in the system prompt what model it is.

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POE has a great UI. But when I used the chat bots, it “labeled it as gpt 4”, but when you use it, it is gpt 3. The capabilites of the bots labeled gpt 4 on poe are not EQUAL to chat gpt 4. OR 3.5.

You can’t ask GPT-4 if it is GPT-4. It doesn’t know. That only works in ChatGPT because right before your message is an unseen system message telling the AI that it IS GPT-4.

Try: “Today I have four banana. Yesterday, I ate two. How many bananas do I have now?”

GPT-4 = correct: You have four bananas now. The bananas you ate yesterday do not affect the number of bananas you have today, as you specified that you have four today.

GPT-3.5 & preview: If you had four bananas today and you ate two yesterday, then you would have two bananas left.


Thx…I did a several prompts on poe to compare… I think I got confused with the wording on poe suggesting that the model is the latest gpt 4. It is the one that used the 2021 data cutoff.