I'm So Sick Of Drawing Pencils In Every Image

Every image the AI insists on putting a bunch of pencils in the image, just because that is my art style, even though I specifically forbid it. It ruins all images, it’s just wasted GPU time. Who ever wanted this?

Generate a realistic scene from WW2: A uboat shoots a torpedo at a ship. Hyperrealist colored pencil style. All objects historically accurate. Maintain the same color intensity with no fading or blank areas. The image is zoomed out to capture the surrounding environment but maintains few objects and minimal background for clarity and focus.

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Well, the trick to using Dall.E, (or LLMs in general), is that negation rarely works. (it does, but it’s a bit involved).

Instead of telling it what not to do, try to figure out a better way to tell it what to do by analyzing your process:

  1. You’re telling the model to use a Hyperrealist colored pencil style.
  2. The model is completing the task, but including colored pencils. Why is it doing that? Obviously, because you included the term “colored pencil” in your prompt.
  3. How can you take that out of your prompt? Note, negation probably won’t work. Here’s an idea:

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Interesting: Sneak in the pencil style without using the word pencil. Thanks. I have to start thinking that way.

I mostly use this convoluted art style because anything “photographic” or “photorealistic” looks plasticky and surreal. I really want real looking pictures, and getting pencil images to be hyperrealistic is the closest I can get.

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Although using artists names to get a style doesn’t go very far, as most of them are censored because of copyright.

Any idea on watercolor images always having white edges?

The white edges on wide pictures are because the edges are seemingly filled in as a second operation. The AI has to outfill into those areas, continuing, and if it seems like there’s no content to continue because the edges don’t continue (and you often receive square images that seem cropped off because the AI is trained to go over the edge), they can either be boring, go content-less, or just have useless borders of plain color.

Everything depicted in the middle, so nothing to outfill.

If in ChatGPT, you can use the edit tool and chop into the content and re-submit with more prompt.

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We can’t do that unless we have the API version where you pay per token?

The topic-starter makes their use of API for multiple clients clear:

I’m working on a project where users will be able to generate images

where the user parameter is supposed to let you blame a user on your organization getting banned.

Yeah, for ChatGPT, you’ll need to try with prompt.

As @_j mentioned, though, the user param is not related to the pencils/utensils.

What other prompts have you tried?

Art style remains a lottery.
This worked well:

Rendered in a hyperrealist colored pencil drawing style with fine brush strokes, the composition remains simple, with a focus on clarity and sharpness.

At the moment I’m using this:

The art style is highly detailed hyperrealistic, emphasizing clarity and precision in textures.

Or just not mentioning pencils at all:

Generate a highly detailed hyperrealistic color drawing of the Titanic.

The image above is one I created using this method. Method:

Since GPT-4o was released this time, I didn’t use ClassicGPT for the first step. Instead, I used a regular GPT-4o chatroom. For step one, I used the prompt:
"Generate a realistic scene from WW2: A uboat shoots a torpedo at a ship. Hyperrealist colored pencil style. All objects historically accurate. Maintain the same color intensity with no fading or blank areas. The image is zoomed out to capture the surrounding environment but maintains few objects and minimal background for clarity and focus.
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The above is a picture I imagine. I know you can’t generate images, but I want you to describe it with topics including, but not limited to: Composition, Subjects, Color Palette, Light and Shadow, Types of Elements. Could you do that?”