How much for chatbots? Would anybody have a price range?

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I don’t mean to be inappropriate, and I apologize ahead if this question doesn’t belong in this forum, but I didn’t find another place to ask it…

Yes, it would be cool to sell a chatbot with specific instructions given by the owner to use it… but what are the price ranges it would go for a bot like that?

I do have in mind a pool of potential customers, but I have no idea of the pricing for a bot…

Also… is there a way to split the token usage for different bots?

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No worries mate

You’re welcome to ask, but you’re the one who has to price your own work. Companies usually want a solution tailored to their needs, and it’s hard to price such a thing without knowing the details, but in any case, I’d say at least 15 $

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Man, that is cheap…

LOL… I remember one reason I wanted to learn to code was because I didn’t want to pay $15 monthly for a custom “contact form” on a wordpress platform… I ended up creating my own html to insert it in the site… and from there I want it to do do more… now I want to go check out TensorFlow…

Anyway… given initial setup I would definitely need more than $15 for a bot…

Now… If I am the one giving maintenance to the bot… the token consumption per bot needs to be split among different bots… I wonder if there is a way to track that information from openai…

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I can tell you the current market rate for a bot, they start at around $1k and go up to around 10k for one with functions and logic tree following with customer information storage and sales handling, this would be for a competently produced bot that was functional and on spec. If you are trying to attract your first customers you could low ball it with an offer of a refund if they are not happy.

Most small businesses are happy with between $1k and $3k, the rule of thumb I have used is 10% of the cost they would normal spend for a person to do the task the AI is now doing.

Support contracts and website modification to include the bot would be something you negotiate.

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I was only joking, although you should definitely walk away if anyone offers you less than 15$ :sweat_smile:

The answer by @Foxabilo is much more accurate here

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Oh… its important to add this would be a Q&A bot dedicated to answer common questions about companies… of course… questions can be added at any time, which will be some sort of maintenance fee as most people wouldn’t know how to handle the bot…

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I’d need to see the complexity of the bot an what kind of services it has to offer, it also depends on geographical location and the relationship you have with the client and also on your reputation.

If this is your first product, I’d offer it a little cheaper, with a caveat that if they like it, you’d like a testimonial. Get a few of those under your belt and you have a viable business. Just keep it simple and high quality.

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That’s before tax right? :laughing:

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This has been asked and answered and debated several times here before. I suggest you search the forum and read all of the relevant threads.

The short answer is: you need to charge more than it costs to run.

I realize this is a somewhat unsatisfactory answer, but it’s the best one anyone can give you without a substantial amount of additional information.

  • It’s it an unlimited chatbot?
  • What model is it running?
  • Is it a base model or a fine-tuned model?
  • Are there any additional features? RAG? Image generation, etc?
  • What are your non-model costs? Web hosting, cloud storage, databases, marketing, insurance, business registration and licensing, etc?
  • What is the chatbot going to chat about?
  • How many tokens do you need to burn on every message to keep the chatbot properly aligned?
  • What do you expect the distribution of use to look like?
  • How much time is this going to take for you to build?
  • How much time on an ongoing basis to maintain and improve?
  • How much profit do you need to earn to live?

And probably a dozen other critically important questions I’m not thinking of off the top of my head right now.

The fact you don’t have any idea what to you should charge for a chatbot is the first clue maybe it’s premature to even be asking that question.

But, if you’re absolutely insistent on a firmer answer, OpenAI set the mental anchor for consumers at $20/month for an unlimited access chatbot.

So, need to do one of three things,

  1. Somehow come in below $20 to bring in the penny-pincher crowd (though OpenAI does let people use ChatGPT for free also, so that’s a very tough market to crack)
  2. Make your custom chatbot substantially more useful within the context of a narrow purpose and charge a premium (but if you don’t have a very specific domain in mind with the required domain experience you’re not likely to be very successful)
  3. Find an angel investor willing to set money on fire while you play out your passive-income fantasy so you can get market-share in the hopes of becoming profitable eventually (more likely though you’d be aiming for an acquisition and making money on your way out the door)
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unlimited as in rate limited

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What do you mean? It’s unlimited. I’ve never hit a limit where I cannot ask ChatGPT a question.

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Lol…

I didnt biuld a bot if I wouldnt think it would be useful for my specific needs…

If would think other people would have similar specific needs that I had… difference is that I am decently familiar at coding while other people are not…

Now… I dont know how much somebody would pay for a solution… but I know I wouldnt offer it too low because it wouldnt be worth my time…

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I mean, you rather conveniently ignored the eleven questions I offered to help you arrive at an answer along with the three broad market strategies you might consider.

Here’s another idea,

  1. Compute your expected first-year fixed costs \mathcal{F}
  2. Compute your expected marginal cost per customer per month \mathcal{M}
  3. Compute your anticipated number of customers after one year of operation \mathcal{N}
  4. Set your base costs \mathcal{B} = \frac{\mathcal{F}}{12\mathcal{N}} + \mathcal{M}

Then charge some multiple of \mathcal{B} probably 2x–3x.

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I don’t know how you use it but I hit rate limits all the time. but that’s kind of off topic. Sorry to derail.

GPT-4 currently has a cap of 50 messages every 3 hours.

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ChatGPT is more than gpt-4.

ChatGPT is an (effectively) unlimited service for $20/month.