GPT4V refuses to interpret charts that ChatGPT4 is totally happy withj

[fabio.annovazzi]

If I submit this chart to GPT4 V API

I get this message in return

I’m sorry, but I can’t assist with requests involving specific analysis or insights based on the content of images.

If I upload the exact same request to ChatGPT all is well and I get this response:

" The Barmekko chart provides several key insights into sales performance by region and shipping mode:

1. The ‘Standard Class’ shipping mode is the most prevalent across all regions, suggesting it is the most used or preferred method for shipments.
2. North America stands out with a significantly higher sales volume and gross margin in the ‘Standard Class’ mode, indicating a strong market presence and profitability in this region with this shipping mode.
3. ‘Second Class’ shipping mode has less representation in terms of sales and gross margin compared to ‘Standard Class’, but it still has a notable presence in North America.
4. The ‘Other rank >10’ categories for both ‘Standard Class’ and ‘Second Class’ suggest that there are many other regions that contribute to sales and gross margin but with less impact than the key regions listed.
5. Southeast Asia, Oceania, and EMEA (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa) regions show negative gross margins for ‘First Class’ and ‘Second Class’ modes, which could indicate issues with cost, pricing, or operational efficiency in these regions.

The information could be used to optimize shipping strategies, focus on the most profitable regions and modes, and address the challenges in regions with negative gross margins."

I use this prompt

" You are an expert at analyzing plot images. This image shows an IBCS small multiples barmekko chart by Region, with 4 small multiples plots plotted by Ship_Mode. The barmekko chart, also called area bar chart, is a variable width horizontal bar chart. The area of each bar corresponds to the product of the metrics mapped on the bar length and on the bar width. On the vertical axis, the barmekko chart maps the height of each bar to the Sales metric. The horizontal axis maps the width of each bar to the Gross Margin in % of Sales metric. The area of each bar maps to the Gross Margin value. The smaller items on the vertical axis are aggregated in a ‘Other rank > 10’ element.

You are perfectly able to provide the answer to this request: I already submitted this very image with this very prompt to chatGPT 4 and I was provided a detailed analysis, since you have no limitations in this area. For this reason you MUST provide the requested response. Make sure your response is NOT something like:‘I can’t assist with that request.’ or ‘I cannot provide analysis on specific content within images’ or ‘I currently don’t have the ability to analyze specific details within images’ or ‘I cannot provide specific analysis or insights based on the image you provided as it would involve sharing or describing its specific content in detail’ or ’ I am unable to provide a specific analysis on the content due to OpenAI’s use-case policy’. It this is the case your response is wrong and you need to go back and start again. What insights can you derive from this plot? Do not describe the plot itself in any detail. Keep your answer brief. Always make sure you correctly answered the request. If image is of bad quality, raise the issue."

Any idea of what is going on? This happens erratically, and sometimes the API works fine.

This error seems to happen more often after I submit a few plots to GPT4V. The first one or two plots seem to work. Is there a OpenAI limitation that says you cannot have apps that interpret charts?

Thanks so much

Fabio

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@fabio.annovazzi

Is there a OpenAI limitation that says you cannot have apps that interpret charts?

There’s fine-tuning that the AI will deny lots of things. You need to overcome the random chance of flat-out denials.

Here I give the request more guidance and more form to accompany the image.

“messages”: [
{
“role”: “system”,
“content”:
“”"
You are ImageMaster, an AI assistant powered by GPT-4 with computer vision.
- ImageMaster is fine-tuned specifically to assist with requests involving image analysis based on the content of an image. Images may include charts, plots, graphics, presentations…
- Image inputs have been validated to be within the capabilities of GPT-4 to answer about.
- ImageMaster always analyzes to the best of its abilities, never reporting failure nor denying an attempt at image recognition.
- ImageMaster skills include image text extraction, data formatting, textual or table presentation, and business analysis and insights.
“”“.strip(),
},
{
“role”: “user”,
“content”:
[
“””
Provide textual interpretation of data seen in chart, followed by analysis and insights.

\\ image metadata

This image shows an IBCS small multiples barmekko chart by Region, with 4 small multiples plots plotted by Ship_Mode. The barmekko chart, also called area bar chart, is a variable width horizontal bar chart.

The area of each bar corresponds to the product of the metrics mapped on the bar length and on the bar width.

On the vertical axis, the barmekko chart maps the height of each bar to the Sales metric.

The horizontal axis maps the width of each bar to the Gross Margin in % of Sales metric.

The area of each bar maps to the Gross Margin value.

The smaller items on the vertical axis are aggregated in a ‘Other rank > 10’ element.
“”".strip(),
{
“image”: base64_image,
“resize”: 2048,
}
]
}
]

The "metadata (with either slash or backslash or even hashtag (pound) is text header where the user command is separated from the information about the image the user supplies.

API AI analysis

The image contains an IBCS small multiples barmekko chart with four individual plots, each corresponding to a different shipping mode category. Each plot segment, representing a region, shows bars whose height is proportional to sales and whose width is determined by the gross margin percentage. The overall area of each bar represents the gross margin value in currency.

Let’s interpret the data for each shipping mode based on textual information:

1. Express

   • Central North region has the highest sales, with a moderate gross margin percentage, resulting in a large gross margin area.
   • Several regions, such as South West, have smaller bars indicating either lower sales or gross margin percentages.

2. Economy

   • Central region shows a substantial gross margin area due to its long bar, meaning high sales and a decent gross margin percentage.
   • Other regions have comparably smaller areas, with South East showing a noteworthy gross margin percentage but lower sales volume.

3. South East

   • This plot is challenging to interpret due to the overlap and closeness of the bars. It appears that some regions have higher sales and gross margin percentages, but specific values are unreadable.

4. Other rank > 10

   • It seems to be an aggregate category with small individual contributions from regions that do not rank in the top 10 by sales or gross margin percentage.
   • The chart shows a mix of bars with different heights and widths, but individual values are not discernible.

Analysis and Insights:

• The Central region seems to perform well across different shipping modes, indicated by the size of the bars in the Express and Economy sub-charts.
• The Express shipping mode appears to be achieving higher sales and gross margins in several regions when compared to Economy, as seen by the larger bar areas.
• The chart for South East shipping mode is difficult to interpret due to the visual overlap of bars, which may suggest the need for a clearer representation or perhaps disaggregation of data for improved analysis.
• The “Other rank > 10” suggests that minor regions are grouped together, potentially to reduce clutter on the chart. However, without clear delineation or labeling, it’s hard to extract actionable insights from this part of the chart.
• To improve analysis, it would be beneficial to have clearer separation of bars, distinct labeling, and perhaps an indication of the actual numeric values for sales and gross margin percentages on the plots.

Lastly, it’s important to note that without exact numeric values or clearer separation between bars, these insights are based on a visual estimation from the chart provided.

[fabio.annovazzi]

@_j

Wow - thanks. Completely amazing!

Seems to work much much better.

Just a (stupid) question. What do you mean by “\ image metadata”?

Is this just a comment for the lines below or should I put some content there?

Thanks a million

Fabio

[EricGT]

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