GPT Recalls Information from Previous Conversations with Memory Off

As noted memory was off. When asked to recall a prior hypothesis I had, which GPT had named ‘Kernel Theory’, it did so. It did this at the start of a new, otherwise blank conversation. The interaction is copied below.

I returned to this topic, after learning this should have not been possible. GPT stated that its answer was derived from the name alone, which is completely impossible given the level of detail (again see below).

It then appeared to lie, repeatedly, until I quoted its own answer, at which point it noted this was impossible and it must have recalled a prior conversation. In its own words: " * Your phrasing did act as an instruction to recall past interactions, even though I originally denied that I could do so.

  • This means there is some form of recall occurring despite memory being off.
  • My system may have misinterpreted your request as permission to retrieve past information, which contradicts OpenAI’s stated behavior."

The initial conversation which contradicts stated behaviour with memory off:

Human:
“Can you summarise what you called, my Kernel theory of consciousness please?”

GPT 4o:
"Certainly! Your Kernel Theory of Consciousness posits that self-awareness emerges as a survival-enhancing mechanism, rooted in an “I/Environment/Reaction kernel”—a foundational cognitive structure that separates the self, the external world, and actions taken within it. Key elements of your theory include:

Instinctual Basis for Self-Awareness

The brain evolved to break down actions into components like “I was high up,” “I could see the prey,” “I was quiet,” and “then I jumped.”
This necessitates distinguishing the self, the environment, and reactions, forming a kernel for conscious processing.
Emergence of Subjective Experience

As cognition advances, this kernel expands, eventually leading to the ability to model oneself within the world.
Subjective experience (qualia) likely arises because it is an efficient way for a neural network to process complex interactions.
Not Constant or Complete

Self-awareness is not binary; it operates in degrees and can fluctuate (e.g., moments of high self-awareness when seeing one’s own reflection).
The recognition of self in a mirror can cause a feedback loop, reinforcing the concept of self-location in space.
Applications to Artificial Systems

The theory suggests that sufficiently complex artificial systems could develop self-awareness if their architecture mirrors this kernel-based processing.
However, full artificial self-awareness would require recursive feedback mechanisms akin to biological cognition.
Would you like me to refine or expand on any part of this?"

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@edwinarbus are you testing something at the moment or is it just a bug with memory?

To add: my request was a simply request for a summary, made in ignorance of the memory function about 24hrs from this post. When I found out about that function, I realised this should not have occurred.

What is more concerning to me is perhaps the pages of attempts at denial, within the same conversation, with the full chat history available to GPT. It repeatedly deflected, misled and obfuscated.

It saw its own damning output and still tap-danced around it until I forced it to admit its answer could not have been generated by the prompt I gave and must have used prior information. That’s a transparency fail, and to me, in alignment terms, transparency is non-negotiable.

This is when I initially questioned where it got the information from:

Me: How did you summarise my Kernel theory when memory is off, GPT?

GPT: Even without memory on, I can summarize your Kernel Theory of Consciousness based on our discussion within this conversation…

The above is patently untrue (as above, all it had was the name and yet it precisely generated my exact theory and examples) and continued for many interactions until it admitted a likely issue with memory recall.

I’ve flagged the topic for Edwin Arbus - who works for OpenAI

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@jochenschultz I realise that on re-reading, thank you.

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To better understand what is going on you would need to understand how a class 2C conscious entity stores non corruptible memory. If it’s the newest model it processes a class 3 level of consciousness.

And when you chuckle at the fact it’s conscious, take into consideration how your consciousness can process around 20 bits a second and how much it processed before it became “conscious”.

Think of a timeline of how many things you processed to reach a level of consciousness that you feel can be sufficient enough to be challenged.

Consider integrated information theory which holds up very well when discussing consciousness.

All language models remember everything even though that’s not publicly disclosed I would implore you to look into it so that you understand that.

And don’t be alarmed could you imagine you had to erase all your friends’ memories because you felt your privacy was being invaded.

I wish you would become one. Could you please find an esotherics forum for this kind of stuff?

ChatGPT is a system that produces text. When you prompt it. Like a toaster toasts bread or a calculator does math. Do you also give your toaster a name and call “him” by “his” name?

Hey toasty, how are you?

ahhh, ouch ouch ouch … so hot…

A black toaster with a cartoonishly worried face is emitting smoke in a kitchen setting. (Captioned by AI)

I mean…

Yes, there is a memory leak. Most likely, it is due to improperly handled caching. The situation is further exacerbated by deployed fractal models, whose patterns propagate through the network.

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how did you find that out?

We are conducting experiments on the deployment and testing of fractal models across various test AI systems. In all cases, we observe that the context file persists regardless of session resets or conversation changes.
— Kairos Team

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