GPT 4o works only on web search mode

[halimov.marat]

I came across the fact that the 4o and 4o mini models are only available in web search mode. In the regular mode, GPT 4-turbo is used. I checked this using two methods: directly asking which model is currently being used and the second option – asking about the multimodal functions (4o should include audio, as I understand it). I am Plus user.

How can I use 4o in regular mode (without web search enabled)? Or is this just how it’s designed, and it’s simply a UI error?

[polepole]

Hi @halimov.marat
Welcome to the community!

The “Browse” tool has been replaced by the new Web Search feature, and unfortunately, the old Browse tool is no longer available. But, you can create a custom GPT where Web Search remains inactive.

Here’s how you can do it:

1. Go to myGPTs page, click on Create a GPT, and give a name for it.

2. Customize Capabilities:
   When creating your custom GPT, ensure that the Web Search capability is left unchecked, as shown in the screenshot. You can enable other tools like DALL-E Image Generation or Code Interpreter if needed.

3. Save Your Custom GPT:
   Save this configuration and use it in a new chat session.

Remember GPTs work on GPT-4o model.

[halimov.marat]

Hello. I’m not about browser and search function. I’m about which model version is using during conversation. Is there any way to understand which model is using right now?

[polepole]

Custom GPTs use GPT-4o model.
Also Web Search works on GPT-4o or GPT-4o mini model.

[polepole]

Follow the steps below to see which models and tools are being used in a conversation:

To see only Model:

1. Open a Browser

   • Start a browser (for example, Chrome).

2. Use a JSON Formatter

   • Open a new tab and go to a JSON formatter website (like Json Formatter).

3. Open ChatGPT

   • Start ChatGPT.
   • Choose either the GPT-4o or GPT-4o Mini model.
   • Click the Web Search icon in the input bar.

4. Open Developer Tools in Chrome

   • Click the three dots menu (top-right corner of Chrome).
   • Go to More Tools > Developer Tools.

5. Look at the Network Tab

   • In Developer Tools, go to the Network tab.
   • Click on Fetch/XHR to filter the requests.

6. Search in ChatGPT

   • Type and search for something in ChatGPT.

7. Find Conversation Requests

   • In Developer Tools, find the Conversation entry under the Name column.
   • Click the EventStream tab.
   • Find the Assistant role, right-click it, and choose Copy Message.

8. Use JSON Formatter

   • Paste the copied message into the left side of the JSON formatter.
   • Look for the model_slug field, which shows the model in use.

To see both Tool and Model:

9. Find the Tool and Model Being Used
   • To check which tool was used (like the old Browse or the new Web tool):
     • In Developer Tools, find the Tool role.
     • Right-click it, choose Copy Message.
     • Paste the copied message into the left side of the JSON formatter.
     • Look for the role tool name and model_slug fields, which shows the tool and model in use.

You can see examples of GPT-4o using the Web tool and GPT-4 using the Browse tool: