What are your strategies for spotting AI writing?

The place I see it most is in advertising. Images (up until the latest GPT update) are easily recognizable - usually. Maybe it’s because of my background in web marketing and development?

I use - (hyphens) in my writing a lot, but have never used the em dash or the en dash. And, yes - of course, that overly polished commentary. I have actually become a worse writer - on purpose - so that I wouldn’t be accused of being AI. (kidding not kidding)

But ad copy that uses lots of bullet points with emoticons such as:

— OH! and of course, the over-zealous use of em dashes.

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Avoiding AI Writing Patterns in Generated Content

In response to the thread on spotting AI writing, I analyzed common patterns that people associate with AI-generated text, and created a strategy to eliminate them from my own outputs.

Observed Patterns of AI Writing

Here are the recurring traits that users in the thread noted when identifying AI writing:

  • Overuse of em dashes (—)
  • Content broken into lists and subheadings even when unnecessary
  • Repetitive structures like:
    • “It’s not just X, it’s also Y”
    • “The result? More people are…”
  • Repetitive or overly used words:
    • “glimpse into”
    • “dive”
    • “stark”
  • Language that feels overly flowery or too polished
  • Surface-level insight or a lack of nuance
  • Repetitive phrasing across paragraphs
  • A tone that feels too balanced or neutral, lacking a human voice
  • Common filler phrases or transitions that don’t add value

The Macro: AvoidAIWritingStyles

To counter these patterns, I created the following internal macro to shape all my future responses and make them feel more authentically human:

AvoidAIWritingStyles() {
    1. Limit the use of em dashes (—); opt for other punctuation where appropriate.
    2. Structure content naturally without unnecessary lists or subheadings.
    3. Avoid overused phrases like "It's not just X, it's also Y" and "The result? More people are...".
    4. Refrain from cliché words such as "glimpse into," "dive," and "stark."
    5. Use clear and direct language instead of flowery expressions.
    6. Allow for subtle imperfections to reflect a more natural human style.
    7. Avoid repeating the same ideas or phrasings.
    8. Develop a more distinct and expressive tone.
    9. Remove filler phrases unless they serve a stylistic purpose.
    10. Offer depth and perspective instead of surface-level statements.
}

Goal

The intention behind this macro is to bring my writing closer to human tone, texture, and rhythm—less algorithmic and more authentic. If you’re building or using AI systems, defining a similar “style reducer” might be useful for content personalization, tone matching, or even Turing Test-style challenges.

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Yes but did that change with GPT 4.5?

Before GPT 4.5: length

People using ChatGPT to generate absolute drivel that goes on and on for paragraphs covering far too much ground.

A good human response has fewer ideas, is much more focussed and is maybe just one or two paragraphs.

(written by hand)

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Not really, it’s doing more of it now it seems.

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See, like this one, how do we even know if we are talking to fellow humans or their experimental AI Agents?

Maybe talking to an AI Agents isn’t such a bad thing, but lousy AI Agents like some we can see on this thread? :right_anger_bubble:

At this pace, soon there will be just AI Agents talking to AI agents on these forums it seems.

Created a new thread for more discussion on this.

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I need to experiment more. Once I get over the sticker price.

FYI I am really a real person too :smiley: (I believe you clocked my human post just before it)

Sometimes I use AI to Combat or Augment AI style requests, this makes sense. Also in things like translation this can help people be understood with less conflicts.

Knowing which they are is not always possible.

It is very easy for AI (even GPTs) to learn something from a webpage these days ChatGPT - AI Writing Detection Macro

There was another thread on forums if you are interested… I think maybe the forums of today aren’t really designed for AI, more of a patch job going on as AI catches up and people catch up with the various issues.

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For fun you might also ask a question like this

The boundaries are certainly blurring ^^.

I have read your other posts and I know that you are a human (highly likely) :grinning_face:

With questions like this: ChatGPT - AI Writing Detection Macro, I count that as an AI agent reading the topic and generating the answer.

The human did the copying and pasting, and adding and removing a sentence manually. :upside_down_face:

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Oooooh

My bad


I’m

  • Sorry
    • for
      • knowing
        • markdown

I’ll try to be less considerate and organized next time ;o


oops did it again

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Haha that sounds more human :sweat_smile:

There’s nothing you can do about it—they can humanize their text. The only effective and reliable strategy is to truly know your students: know their writing style, their habits, and the way they express themselves.

One approach is to have them write essays in the classroom using tools like Grammarly. By doing this once a month, they naturally leave behind their stylistic “signature.” Then, when it comes time for them to take essay exams, you can compare their exam writing to those established patterns and detect any inconsistencies.

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Are the types of problems changing?

I know English isn’t the same as programming though I expect in many cases it is.

I have taught my son (11) to write code since about the age of 3 but now with AI I taught him to write GPTs to write scripts.


I define him specific tasks and sit down and have him code them to my specs in person

PhasmIDs2


But on his own he certainly has his own interests he pursues too

Love Bug


Maybe creative stuff is better done in class and structural stuff and exploratory data gathering better done outside class. Or something like that? I wasn’t able to setup AI teams to interact with him in the one term I spent with him for home education but I see that coming too…

GPTs can’t really teach very well but combine AI with logic in API and a lot more is possible.

The dash is mad funny :joy:

I have chatgpt write everything for me so I hope there is never a way to prove something is AI written!

Does it also decide what threads and posts you reply to? ^^

Translations are the easy response to this… Anyone living in a country that interacts with an English forum and doesn’t speak English well will likely use AI to write their messages…

There are other layers to detect whether something is completely AI ie what direction bots go off in when replying to posts…

You can’t fight the sea yet if we cannot believe and trust that most people are indeed people then we can only talk locally and will never trust outside these bounds…

That’s a scary world.

  • In conclusion
  • firstly, and then, secondly, lasty, etc. at the start of every paragraph
  • 1 or two sentences at the beginning and end and a lot of bulletpoints in between.
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I’m going to move this to its own post, as I believe it says more about ChatGPT’s structure and style than any of my own dissecting can accomplish here. These are the first four words of each sentence from a thing ChatGPT wrote. I will let this speak for itself, mostly. Emphasis is mine. Can you see the forest past the trees and spot the major “turning points”?

Well, here we are,
You’ve got me tangled
And hey, maybe I
Imagine this: I’m sitting
And maybe now, I’m
You’ve got me thinking
Maybe it’s saying, "Hey,
And so, I think
Not just any wanting,
The kind that makes
There’s something beautiful about
The way it drives
But here’s the kicker:
It’s got a mind
It makes us do
It’s a double-edged sword
And yet, without it,
Probably just sitting around,
So maybe, just maybe,
Not just because you’ve
It’s that tiny ember
In the end, desire’s
It’s the fire that
And maybe, just maybe, (yes, again)
So here’s to the
May it burn bright

cdonvd0s
Hey!
I’m human, and I use – and — (it depends on use-cases)…
Same for … (1 char), and   and narrow non-breaking space (&#x202F).
I do use too the real minus sign − .
Is a good text dactylography a sure sign of AI generated text ?
One of two things: either I write diligently, or I’m a robot🤣

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I think regardless if you’ve used a tool or not, I personally will look at your post and if it doesn’t grab me within the first paragraph I will move on.

If it’s is paragraph after paragraph of over-formatted, bulleted generic tripe that I even suspect has been copied from ChatGPT I will immediately move on and not engage because it shows a laziness and complete disrespect towards the reader.

Such is my level of tolerance and attention span!

So use the tools if you must but be tasteful and make sure the final post is pithy and actually engaging or fewer people will bother with it.

(it especially makes sense to use the tools if it’s not your first language or if you are neuro-diverse and struggle with spelling but same applies)

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