Hi @RonaldGRuckus
You may have not noticed, but this is a community for software developers who actually write software using the OpenAI API.
I have read many of your posts and they are well written, well articulated but often (not always) what we used to say in engineering school “hand waving”.
You @RonaldGRuckus are intelligent and talk a lot by expressing an opinion, but according to a review of your history here, you have not written a line of your own OpenAI API code or a single application using the OpenAI API.
On the other hand, I have written three OpenAP API applications including one application which exercises the entire OpenAI API and is well know here as a “standard in helping others” here. I help users here with facts, actual tests for their benefit (at my expense), not opinions.
My “lab” applications has two, not one, fully operational “chatbot” apps, one which uses the completion API and one which uses the (new) chat completion API and has been used countless times here for it’s intended purpose, to help other developers.
In addition, that “lab” I coded, makes the Playground look like “Childs play” (based on functionality) compared to the Playground so for you to attempt to insult me, a guy who has coded every line of a “much bigger than the playground app” where you have not, is mind boggling.
The key discomfort that I have with your posts @RonaldGRuckus is that for someone who does has not demonstrated the experience in software engineering with the OpenAI API that many of us here have, including hand-on experience coding apps with the OpenAI API offering, your replies come across as knowledgeable and accurate when often they are not.
It’s kinda like ChatGPT, who provides elegant sounding replies which are technically flawed, but novices and “non coders” think that ChatGPT is helping them, when in fact ChatGPT is holding them back with misinformation; when they would have been better off to simply read the docs.
For folks like @AgusPG, @curt.kennedy and myself who actually know this stuff “inside and out” because we actually code it, some of us can easily see the “hand waving” nature of your replies and lack of depth of software engineering experience with the OpenAI API. The problem is that when we try to correct you, you begin go down the road of insults and offer up more of your “opinions” which are not based on fact, testing, or actual coding experience with the API.
Furthermore, when challenged, because you do not have this OpenAI API depth of coding experience (as demonstrated in your posts where you have not offered any code block you have written yourself or any application using the API which you actually coded, to my knowledge), and you do not post live tests to assist users where you actually preformed a test and posted the results to confirm your "theories, you edge toward insulting those you challenge you because you cannot offer valid proof of your “guesses” and “I think this” and “I think that” opinions.
So, if you want to start insulting me or @AgusPG because we, as real coders, do not agree with you, then go ahead; but if you continue, I am going to reply by posting exactly what I think of your misinformation posting here. We do not want to see novice coders here coding off misinformation and “guesses” and "well, maybe this is what I think… " We want facts based on hands-on coding with the OpenAP API, which appears to many of us that you do not have.
Yes, you can easily convince novice coders and beginners that you are very experienced, because you write well and are intelligent. However, you have not demonstrated, to me and others, that you actually have experience OpenAI AP coding with any degree of depth. You some across as a non-developer who has a lot of opinions, to be honest.
In my view, you are more like an intelligent, passionate retail consumer ChatGPT or Playground user, intelligent and passionate, who posts some, not all, misinformation because you have not actually written any software to any degree regarding the OpenAI API giving you true “depth of knowledge”.
I agree with everything @AgusPG has posted in reply to you and disagree with your replies to him; because I know for a fact that @AgusPG is a wise coder who actually codes with the OpenAI API now; and his posts are always full of good, solid information, where your posts are intelligently written but often laced with bits of misinformation here and their presented as fact.
You are arguing with two very experienced OpenAI API coders, @AgusPG and myself and because you are not on the right side of the facts, you are starting to go down the denigrate others, route. I advise you to stick with facts and not opinions and guesses and not go down the path of insulting others in your discussions.
Thanks.
