GPT-4o incapable of word processing tasks

I have been using the promt “rewrite” for many months (chatGPT and other interfaces) to effectively regenerate text with new sentence structure and language.

Previously, the “rewrite” prompt effectively rephrased paragraphs with new wording and sentence structures. However, it just started (yesterday) to return text that is nearly identical to the original input.
Any ideas on what is going on here?

Heya. Welcome to the forum.

What is your exact system and user prompts?

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Hi,

I use chatGPT 3.5 (as well as Jasper, though I don’t know exactly what system it runs on. Both started having the same problem a day or two ago).

The prompt is “rewrite”. It always generated relatively original text until now, but it just started basically reproducing my input.

Try giving it more details as to what you want exactly…

Tried that (content+ “rewrite with new sentence structure and phrasing”) but it doesn’t seem to do much. All it does is change a few words, but nothing significant.

That’s not very detailed. :wink:

Try something like…

Transform the given text by reimagining its structure and refining its language. Experiment with diverse sentence constructions, explore alternative word choices, and introduce nuanced phrasings to enrich the expression. Aim to retain the essence of the original content while infusing it with creativity and originality through meticulous attention to detail in sentence structure and vocabulary selection.

Or “rewrite as if you are … [fill in the blank…]”…

What’s your end goal here?

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Thanks Paul. I will try fiddling around with the prompts a little. I am realizing now that the problem might be in GPT 4.o, which I see chatGPT runs for the first few inputs until reverting back to 3.5. Can this be a 4.o specific problem?

Under this topic, I provided a solution to @samtheman1
However, my reply was flagged as SPAM. I received an email, and it is saying:

Your post was flagged as spam: the community feels it is an advertisement, something that is overly promotional in nature instead of being useful or relevant to the topic as expected.

This is not the first time, someone has been doing it.

Absolutely, 100%, it is NOT an advertisement, something that is overly promotional.

First: I used as sample the novel “Anne of Green Gables” is in the public domain. The novel was first published on January 1, 1908 and the author died in 1942. It entered the public domain in 1983 in the United States, and in 1992 in Canada. This usually happens a certain length of time after an author’s death, and it means the work becomes available for adaptation without fees having to be paid.

I do not sell book.

Second: When I answer the question also I mentioned which GPT may helps us is we face such thing problem.

I do not sell prompts.

In this forum, hundreds people provide links of AI tools that are required subscriptions with paying money. Or some GPTs’ links including members and leaders. Although all of them still there, but someone flags my reply as SPAM.

What is the advertisement in my reply?

Is It an innocent flagging, dear admins and leaders?

I will paste the input text and output text below to give you an idea of what is going on.

The prompt will be [content] + REWRITE

SAMPLE INPUT TEXT:

It was July 21, 1969, and Neil Armstrong awoke with a start. It was the day he would become the first human being to ever walk on the moon. The journey had begun several days earlier, when on July 16th, the Apollo 11 launched from Earth headed into outer space. On board with Neil Armstrong were Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin. The crew landed on the moon in the Sea of Tranquility a day before the actual walk. Upon Neil’s first step onto the moon’s surface, he declared, “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.” It sure was! REWRITE

ChatGPT4o output:(Notice that there is minimal change, and zero change in overall sentence structure)

On July 21, 1969, Neil Armstrong awoke with a start. This was the day he would become the first human to walk on the moon. The journey had begun several days earlier, on July 16th, when Apollo 11 launched from Earth into outer space. Accompanying Armstrong were Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin. The crew landed in the Sea of Tranquility the day before the historic walk. As Neil took his first step onto the lunar surface, he proclaimed, “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.” It certainly was!

ChatGPT 3.5 output: (Very substantial change, change in sentence structure)

July 21, 1969, dawned, and Neil Armstrong stirred awake, a surge of anticipation coursing through him. This was the day he would etch his name in history as the first human to tread upon the lunar surface. The odyssey commenced several days earlier, on July 16th, as the Apollo 11 spacecraft embarked on its voyage from Earth into the vast expanse of outer space. Accompanying Armstrong were fellow astronauts Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin. Touchdown occurred in the Sea of Tranquility a day prior to the monumental lunar stroll. As Armstrong set foot upon the moon’s terrain, he immortalized the moment with his iconic words, “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.” And indeed, it was an epochal leap forward for humanity.

I have been using the “rewrite” prompt to generate improved paragraphs with new wording and sentence structures. However, the new GPT-4o model seems to return text that is nearly identical to the input, with minimal changes or improvements. Even using a more detailed prompt doesn’t help.

This is a significant issue for anyone relying on GPT across various interfaces for rewriting tasks. Has anyone else experienced this problem or have any insights into what might be happening?

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Hello Samtheman1,

I regularly use the api to reformulate texts and I can confirm that GPT-4o is not at all efficient for this task. I’ve tried a dozen variants of prompts, and to no avail, I get a similarity rate of over 50% each time (compared to less than 10% with GPT-4 turbo).

I’m afraid there’s no solution to this problem, GPT-4o doesn’t seem to be designed to do complex word processing tasks, but rather to be very fast, repetitive in order to be a very responsive conversational agent.

Try to get access to gpt-4 turbo to reach your goal.

Regards

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Thank you, Ailogik!

I was beginning to think I might be losing my mind here… but it seems I’m not the only one experiencing this issue.

Do you know how I can access GPT-4 Turbo? I’m not currently a paying ChatGPT customer, but I am willing to subscribe if necessary.

It seems really strange to me that the people over at OpenAI are okay with such a substantial downgrade… there are probably hundreds of thousands of people that have been relying on GPT for all types of writing tasks, yet now it is effectively useless.

what do you mean? nothing really changed as anyone can use the old gpt-4, i find gpt 4o to be a literal god at coding with me, x10 productivity from the standard gpt4…

As illustrated above, there has been a noticeable change. Every AI platform for content creation is now utilizing the latest GPT model, which unfortunately falls short of delivering satisfactory results.

well those platforms obviously moved to the new one because it’s cheaper, like half price… its their decision…anyways hopefully they’ll fix it but i just wanted to mention that you may experience it being bad for your use case but many people have x10 benefited from that update.

Ok, thanks for pointing that out. Like you said, hopefully they will fix this.

The new GPT4 is VERY creative, but you need to INSTRUCT it as to what you actually want it to do.

Example(prompt in bold):

Expand and re-write the following in the style of Steven King:

It was July 21, 1969, and Neil Armstrong awoke with a start. It was the day he would become the first human being to ever walk on the moon. The journey had begun several days earlier, when on July 16th, the Apollo 11 launched from Earth headed into outer space. On board with Neil Armstrong were Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin. The crew landed on the moon in the Sea of Tranquility a day before the actual walk. Upon Neil’s first step onto the moon’s surface, he declared, “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.” It sure was!

ChatGPT
The air was thick with tension on the morning of July 21, 1969, as Neil Armstrong’s eyes snapped open. He sat up in his narrow bunk aboard the Apollo 11, heart pounding in the oppressive silence of space. This was no ordinary awakening—this was the dawn of a day that would carve his name indelibly into the annals of human history. Today, he would become the first person to set foot on the barren, alien landscape of the moon.

The journey to this point had begun in earnest on July 16th, a date now seared into the collective memory of humanity. The Apollo 11 had roared to life, tearing free from Earth’s gravitational grip and hurtling into the endless void. The launch had been a symphony of controlled chaos, the Saturn V rocket’s engines igniting with a fury that could be felt in the bones of every spectator. Neil, along with his companions, Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin, had been strapped into their seats, the tremors of the launch rattling their very souls.

Days drifted by in the weightless expanse, time losing its familiar grip as the men floated through the spacecraft, their thoughts heavy with the enormity of their mission. Then, the moment arrived. The Eagle, their fragile lunar module, descended toward the moon’s pockmarked surface, a lonely beacon in the Sea of Tranquility. The landing had been a nail-biting ballet of precision, a tense descent that ended with the gentle kiss of metal on dust.

Now, the day had come. Clad in his cumbersome spacesuit, Armstrong moved through the cramped module with deliberate care. Each motion was a study in anticipation, every breath echoing in his helmet. He was acutely aware of the weight of history pressing down upon him, even in the weightlessness of space.

As he approached the hatch, the world held its breath. A hiss of air, the creak of the door, and then—there it was. The moon. Desolate. Majestic. Otherworldly.

With a final, resolute breath, Armstrong descended the ladder. His booted foot hovered above the dusty, unmarked surface. And then he stepped down, the first human imprint on this untouched world. His voice crackled over the radios of millions, words measured and immortal: “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.”

The significance of his statement rippled through the ages, a profound declaration of human achievement and unity. Neil Armstrong had bridged the gap between Earth and the heavens, and as he gazed at the pale blue dot in the sky, he knew that nothing would ever be the same. The world was watching, united in awe and wonder, sharing in the triumph of this extraordinary voyage. And in that moment, amidst the silence and the stars, mankind’s dreams had found a new frontier.

Hey, that’s cool. Is there any way to formulate a simple prompt for GPT4o that just rewrites content better and more originally?