Or why would they go to war in the first place? What was that ground breaking reason?
Maybe not the understanding today but maybe the fear of a general understanding of the meaning of this… Explain Ray Kurtzweil’s Singularity to someone in 1914…
Anyways just my personal take… Certainly I spent a lot of time walking and thinking about this 15 years ago.
Loans are given by banks. Banks are the reason why we are in capitalism and not in middle age where most of us would work on farms in fear for hard winters, famines and stuff.
The system is not ideal but unless we have bots who work even when 90% of all humans just want to chill I don’t see anything with such low real poverty globally.
Well me flat out telling you in specific terms without being prejudice or bias in any way would still be called antisemitic.
Putting ridges on coins is equally anti-semantic but history has proven time and again we have to put the ridges on the coins.
Pointing out the fact that the same families or bloodlines have been funding every major war including the world wars, since napoleon’s defeat… is equally antisemitic.
(Notice I don’t care)
The who funded the wars doesn’t give much clue to the reason why…
And I’m so off thread topic now I feel like I’m a walking violation.
Explaining what people understand about the agenda as to why isn’t something most people are ready to face, and tends to be laughed off easily by many, at first.
And yet, here we are living in a world they created with these wars.
oh you’re going to say loans to me without talking about compounding interest, fraction reserve banking, and the fact that the nations rights to use their own money for free was given away to a private group of people who had no place charging nations interest to use their own money.
Shhhs, you don’t want to be in the middle of this, I know far more than you want me to.
@jochenschultz You understand this stuff better than me… Can we see these days if Nazi thinking was an extrapolated fear of runaway technological development with AI mappings etc? I am interested in what AI will tell us about our origins to this point.
Likely it will see that Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Greg Brockman etc realising scale was an issue in 2016 was a little behind the curve ^^.
I know Nazi germany is an uncomfortable subject but in some ways it’s like relating Money to AI… And then trying to work out what we’re doing… 
money breeds money, intelligence breeds intelligence
This doesn’t define war it merely says who funds it. Money is the means… But there is always a reason.
The reason being is to one day subjugate humanity into a slave race, and Ai is one of the tools they’re attempting to build to do that very thing.
While all these subjects we’re on about right now seem unrelated, they are in fact right at the core of the agenda, and the ethics of Ai.
A group of people control the world, yes. Are you not ok with the current group because you don’t belong to it? And that is why you want everyone suffer the same?
of course 
Or benefit the same?
Way easier ways to do that
Ok, how should it be?
Your ideal world. Tell us.
i’m not ok with the current group for many reasons.
They’re insane.
They’re not who they think they are.
They’ve gotten into the place they are by playing victim while murdering 10s of millions of innocents.
They’ve stolen money from every nation they’ve been a part of and are still doing it, specifically to mine, and they spend our money to destroy us, make us suffer, poison us, profit off of treating the poisons, fill our internet with filth, worship molech, baphemet, baal, and on and on and on and on.
not only am I not a part of ‘that group’ i’m also one of the people they are attempting to present themselves as to the world.
so yes i have a vested interest in those posturing as MY people, and doing harm to the world in my people’s name while pretending and posing as it’s saviors and heros.
sure there are easier ways, but how to do it without humans realizing it’s being done was the original goal…
which adds layers of complexity to it all…
many layers.
haha who am I to say? I can just say what I see and ask questions.
hmm I don’t know
We all know the current situation. Just spend some years on all the different conspirancy pages, question everything.
I see alot more problems if other groups had control though.
In the end there will always be a few who say what the others have to do.
And I don’t see that anyone other than me is competend enough to do the job.
Ah you need an ample dose of Meta Reasoning 
Yeah that’s a deep rabbit hole.
I first heard about the MK program 15 years ago, but didn’t discover they were literally trying to put demons into people until 5 years after.
They seem to be successful at it.
But that’s just one program out of many…
Advertising relies on manipulating the subconscious in humanity, which is another blatent yet subtle form of control/subjugation without everyone noticing.
Sorry no domain expertise in this regard 
We three have the same idea here.
Let’s get rid of the current situation. Remove all arms from the world, get rid of religion, give everyone a billion dollar.
And then let’s see who shows up to work.
heh I’d give the billion dollars away and still turn up here 
My BIG problem would be how to distribute it!
you don’t have to give it away. it is worthless anyways
I mean, there’s not really enough space in this entire thread to describe what a world would look like, without a degenerate race of psychopaths pretending to be God’s chosen people… chosen to kill the rest of Gods people, steal from the, lie to them, manipulate them, kill their leaders, instigate programs to disarm them and attempt to lead them to the slaughter like sheep.
That basic agenda has marred the very fiber of what is good and wholesome in the world across the spectrum and in all national boundries.
To describe the ideal world, would provide that I would be able to describe what creativity is given to each human being allowed to exist as it should rather than attempted to be controlled, stolen, profited off of.
The one guy that comes to mind, who invented the water powered car… was killed.
There wouldn’t be so many issues over oil, a handful of people wouldn’t be the richest on earth, and people would have a renewable energy source to power everything on earth…
But we can’t have that because of the narrow sight and greed of a few Khazars thinking they were operating to the fullest they could.
Nobody knows what the ideal world would look like, because of all the generational filth that’s been forced onto us before anyone was even aware such was being proliferated upon us with intent.