I know you get billed for the prompt and the completion
But I was wondering if you get billed for the prompt twice when you set echo=true?
It comes back as part of the completion.
Good question! Thanks for asking @raymonddavey !
Looking forward to the definitive answer.
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Pending confirmation, it looks like you probably don’t get billed for the echo text
I needed to use it because stream=true doesn’t send the token count, so I have to calculate the tokens for the prompt and completion myself.
I have reverse-engineered the tokenizer for V3, and got the same results within 6 tokens
When you use streaming, it looks like you get billed for the [DONE] part of the completion (+4 tokens)
and the two leading newline characters at the start of the completion (+2 tokens) make it reconcile
Up to now, I hadn’t reconciled why the Playground and the billed tokens were different.
It would be great if OpenAI could include the token counts with the [DONE] part of the stream. Then I wouldn’t have to do it on my end
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Hi Raymond, I don’t know if you knew this, but you can use the exact tokenizer for GPT-3 (specific to each flavor) with the open source tool called tiktoken
It depends on the model you use, but here is a chart showing wich tokenizer to use depending on the exact GPT-3 model you are using:
| Encoding name | OpenAI models |
|---|---|
gpt2 (or r50k_base) |
Most GPT-3 models |
p50k_base |
Code models, text-davinci-002, text-davinci-003
|
cl100k_base |
text-embedding-ada-002 |
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Thanks for pointing that out. I did try one of the libraries. Sometimes the results differ to OpenAI. This is especially relevant to Unicode characters. I tracked it down to the regex expression.
In the public libraries, the Regex is:
"'s|'t|'re|'ve|'m|'ll|'d| ?\p{L}+| ?\p{N}+| ?[^\s\p{L}\p{N}]+|\s+(?!\S)|\s+"
But in the Playground (and in the API), the regex is:
"'s|'t|'re|'ve|'m|'ll|'d| 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\xA0\u1680\u2000-\u200A\u2028\u2029\u202F\u205F\u3000\uFEFF]+(?!(?:[\x00-\x08\x0E-\x1F!-\x9F\xA1-\u167F\u1681-\u1FFF\u200B-\u2027\u202A-\u202E\u2030-\u205E\u2060-\u2FFF\u3001-\uD7FF\uE000-\uFEFE\uFF00-\uFFFF]|[\uD800-\uDBFF][\uDC00-\uDFFF]|[\uD800-\uDBFF](?![\uDC00-\uDFFF])|(?:[^\uD800-\uDBFF]|^)[\uDC00-\uDFFF]))|[\t-\r \xA0\u1680\u2000-\u200A\u2028\u2029\u202F\u205F\u3000\uFEFF]+"
Note : The regex above is specific to C#, the escaping is different for Javascript
Also, the dictionary used in V3 and V2 of GPT are completely different (However, both have 50,000 entries)
I haven’t had time to see if they only changed the order of the tokens. However, I can confirm that the token number (used by logbias) are different between the dictionary on this site, and the one being used by the Playground and current tokenizer.
I have a copy of the current dictionary if anyone needs it (with the tokens in the correct order, and with the correct token id numbers)
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Right, text-davinci-002 and text-davinci-003 both use p50k_base, whereas the other models use r50kbase (both are 50k but different). The only oddball is text-embedding-ada-002 which uses cl100k_base (which I’m guessing is what ChatGPT uses too).
Does this explain the difference?
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Thanks for that. It gives me somewhere to investigate.
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