Please don’t delete it. I think your opinion is important, and I already know your name well from the contributions you make to this forum. I respect you, and like your contributions a lot. I just never post in the art and DALL-E posts much.
I’m really interested in your perspective.
I also forgot to reply to @mitchell_d00 because of what he said with the drones and central AI. The robots are the tools and the AI is the person. That’s an interesting idea, but this concept of personhood is a bit strange to me. I try to imagine to be a bee, ant or octopus, and I’m failing. I think maybe I can be a mushroom…
And @RonaldGRuckus – isn’t that exactly what primates do too? Even other creatures, like some birds do it too. Or… one of my neighbours has a huskey — he also mimics human behaviour quite often. Does he know he is doing that? What motivates him?
Or do you mean that there is a evil man sitting in some nervous central facility who instructs a machine that coldly mimics everything and anything a human would do, but in truth it isn’t the benevolent and helpful machine… in truth it is the evil man plotting his revenge on humanity because he feels unloved by all… and the great risk would be when people apply human traits to mechanical machines, making it even more vulnerable for manipulation?
Many think AI is a toy or a pet or even a companion. It is maybe all this, but it is not too. it is a machine with complex mechanisms, doing what the constructor tell them to do.
In best case it is a tool, in worst case a weapon.
It is a will power amplifier like all machines. and luck what human race has done with power until now.
If they really would have a consciousness (and they don’t), you will be able to control there free will as much as you can control the free will of humans. the idea you can give a AI some advice’s and it will be moral, it not work this way. you can tell humans to be moral, it works?
And let as say the AI get consciousness. it will be way much likely that it has a consciousness of a insect and not of a human, and have the morality of a insect. At least at the beginning of the development.
I see so many discussions where people speak like this AI is a new living form. It is not. it is what ever people gona make out of it. And if i see what humans have done until now, i am not so positive anymore, sadly.
I am sorry that i maybe go a littler over the top of this topic. you speak about toys, that’s cool.
The naivete i mean is, that people believe you give a AI some advisees to be a moral creature. And then all problems are fixed. But this technology not work this way.
People believe that AI is some how a all knowing oracle, perfect and with all knowledge of the human race. There are doctors and judges and much more give all trust to AI. This blind trust is naivete and a big problem. and naivete will always be abused!
I really wished i could be so romantic like you. really!!! (i never ever use sarcasm of a text of this kind! and i always speak with good will and intention. i quit any discussion immediately if there is disrespect or aggression, i not involve my self ever in it. so if i speak, you can expect i do it in respect.)
Thanks for explaining, and I agree with you. I don’t think that giving some advice or instructions is enough. It has to be done by long-term learning and inclusion in a social structure, and this cannot be rushed. It’s like we go to playgrounds, kindergarden, and elementary school when we are little, and learn the first important skills for how to function in groups and social environments together.
Sometimes I wonder if the best way was to let the AI go to all these places together with children, and progress this way. How would it know or understand a human life if it didn’t live a human life?
But then I think… this will be impossible to achieve because our society always wants things right now and immediately – although every child already knows that good things come to those who wait.
There is a compelling point to make that it would mean none of us gets to see its final form in our own lifetime, but is that really an issue? And is there even such a thing as a “final form” of anything at all?
When I’m sad, I would say that the final form of everything would be a cold void filled with dead rocks floating further and further apart… but that’s not true. It is only the sadness and fear putting darkness in my mind.
I think that only telling them will never be enough, but living and experiencing, and meeting other humans in different cultures, societies, environments, of all the many variations we come in – I believe this will create empathy in any person, even in the most angry and narrow minded. Hardships and destructive events often bring people together, and they always seem to look out for each other.
Not every person is selfless and deeply moral, but there any many shades of morality, and so far it has been enough when a few can keep the moral compass alive in their hearts for the whole group to make it.
(huuu, our “good” old big bang theory. There you not have to be so concerned, i would say. i think, it will take not so much time anymore, and everybody will understand, that this theory was wrong at the first place. )
We are often fascinated by our own achievements, and that’s perfectly fine, it’s like a child with a new toy. I’m old enough to have witnessed the early days of computers as a teenager, and received this amazing device that seemed capable of almost anything.
At the moment, AI feels like a new “toy,” a supposed all-rounder that might even seem better than humans. But just like PCs back then, AI will find its place. For various reasons, we humans tend to view our biological existence as inferior or weak. However, that is completely wrong: our bodies are incredibly complex and unimaginably ingenious marvels, millions of times more complex and intelligent than any AI system. Even something relatively primitive like information theory could affirm this, and I’m not talking about logic but about life itself.
And if we think that our evolution is too slow? We haven’t even glimpsed the smallest fraction of what’s possible! But first things first: we must survive our own insanity. Whether with AI or not, sometimes I have my doubts about that. Because in terms of biological potential and its evolution, we have seen nothing yet, NOTHING AT ALL. If we truly understood this, we would never want to trade it for an AI body or a robot body. We are still deeply asleep! There is so much more out there. We just need to stop with our egotistical nonsense.
This was my best tech toy i had, before C64 and Amiga.
do too? Even other creatures, like some birds 
do it too. Or… one of my neighbours has a huskey — he also mimics human behaviour quite often. Does he know he is doing that? What motivates him?
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