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Very helpful information!When I first signed on, I couldn’t login to my desktop at all. Works like wonders on my iPad.

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Thanks,
And now? After you first sign on, can you have full access from your desktop?

I think many people here don’t believe or don’t read the security requirements. If you don’t mind, I get this opportunity of your reply to leave the message below trying to convince people once more.

OpenAI has been raising its security levels almost every week. Its investors are demanding to do it.

It would be unfair if we talk about specific software products such as T**-t** or Q* social networks, Hu**** phones, E* F*** Ex****** manager, some anti-viruses or ad-blockers (originally) from non-supported countries, privacy-caring browsers like T**, Br***, D***-d***, VPNs and proxies with entry-points in non-supported countries, and so on.
We can’t say for sure, but there are strong suspicions on these platforms - they could be responsible for many of these unsuccessful attempts.
There are a lot of misunderstandings about security and the meaning of “clean installation.”

A few hours ago, we learned that a clean Linux installation with almost nothing, a new IP address, and a trusted email account had a successful first log-on, and it used a previously “flagged” phone for SMS code - while happening all of this. So, it is possible! We can’t say more.

This is not a public social network like we used to know.
For comparison: if Facebook, LinkedIn, Tinder, Twitter, and Whatsapp are “street festivals,” then OpenAI ChatGPT and completion models are private conversations in a traditional club. A dress code and adequate behavior are demanded.

What we are doesn’t matter here: nationality, beliefs, political tendencies, profession.
If we are in a supported country:
The only that matters is what we do, our intentions here, and how safe we are - and nothing else.
Your computers and devices must represent this.
Good luck to you all.

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Try using Opera Mini as your browser, use the built in VPN, then proceed in creating/logging in your account. Worked for me. Hope will help.

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If you have problems reading long letters - I will try to simplify them for you:

  1. Access from Non-supported Countries: NO SOLUTION!!! MUST WAIT!!!
  2. Access from Supported Countries with local block/suspension: TRUSTED VPN ONLY!!!
  3. Access from Supported Countries under normal conditions: SIGN UP & 1ST LOG ON FROM CLEAN INSTALLATION!!! TRUSTED EMAIL!!! PHONE NUMBER MATCH IN ALL SERVICES!!! A NEW IP ADDRESS FOR EVERY TRY OR SIGN-UP!!! TRUSTED BROWSER, NO PRIVACY EXTENSION!!! CLEAN CACHE AND COOKIES, FOR EVERY TRY OR SIGN-UP!!! ACCEPT COOKIES, AND TURN SCRIPTS OFF!!!
  4. Access guarantee in the clean installation: NONE - BEST POSSIBLE OPTION UNTIL NOW!!!
  5. Endless problem: WRONG!!! WHEN WILL END: NOBODY KNOWS!!!
  6. Cause of the problem: INCREASING SECURITY!!! SINCE THE BEGINNING OF MARCH - “FLAGGED” ISSUE STARTED 3 DAYS AGO!!! OPENAI MADE MANY CHANGES!!!
  7. Who is causing the problem: CLOUDFLARE, OPENAI BY THE ORDERS OF DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!
  8. How to solve the problem: WRITE A LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHITE HOUSE, PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE, WASHINGTON D.C., USA
  9. Everyone’s suffering: WRONG!!! THEY ARE NOT USERS!!! THEY ARE WANNA-BE FREE ACCOUNT USERS!!! OPENAI IS SELECTING, NOW!!! THERE ARE A LOT OF PAID USERS ALREADY!!! THEY ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF SYSTEM OVERLOADS - AN EXCESS OF FREE USERS!!!
  10. How OpenAI selects: BY THE ONLY WAY POSSIBLE: CHECKING SAFE AND CLEAN INSTALLATIONS!!! IDENTIFYING THE USERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!!!
  11. What are the options: MICROSOFT BING AI (GPT-4) BUT THEY ALLOW EDGE BROWSER ONLY!!! DEEP BLUE CHESS COMPUTER AND MANY FREE OTHERS!!! UNSUPPORTED COUNTRIES HAVE THEIR OWN AI OPTIONS!!!
  12. How to complain: HELP BOT AT help.openai.com - BROWN ICON AT BOTTOM RIGHT - IF IT IS WORKING!!!
  13. What is this forum for: AI DEVELOPERS PRIMARILY, IT WAS DIVERTED TO HELP NEW USERS!!! NOW IT IS FLOODED BY CHATGPT USERS WANNA-BE!!!
  14. OpenAI Employees available: NONE AT THE MOMENT - NOBODY HERE IS GETTING PAID TO WRITE LONG LETTERS AND TO SIMPLIFY THEM LATER!!!
  15. When all these problems will get over: WHEN WE ACHIEVE WORLD PEACE - NO MILITARY OR TRADE WARS!!!

I hope it is simplified and spinless enough for you.

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Thanks for your effort of simplification , my country has already completely banned the chat GPT which is unfair and disappointing . I do hope one day we all could get over these .

But what intrigues me is that the event you called ‘change OPENAI too much’ . Is that related to the 5G cell phone maker you mentioned before? I am a little bit curious about that.

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Welcome. We can’t say for sure, but it is not only one event - we don’t know what is going on behind and under what we watch on the news. First, it was the 5G cell phone maker, now it is about a video social network - both from the same non-supported country. How a bunch of “dancing teenagers” videos could be a threat to the national security of a country? And the CEO of this social network is answering an inquiry in Congress for his network not to be banned. What is going on? We don’t know. Here in this forum, there are only technical people. We suspect these changes may affect devices having such platforms installed, but we can’t confirm it.

By the way, sorry for the “simplification” - it was not for you - it was for another guy - he removed his messages.

If your country is a supported one, you can access it from a trusted VPN, even if it was banned - if you already have an account. If you don’t have an account, please try from a clean installation as described - Linux preferred, using the same trusted VPN.

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I am experiencing the exact same issue with it blocking my phone number. This is so weird!

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Thanks for your reply , but unfortunately my country is a non-supported one which is probably the mastermind behind the events you mentioned.And I am sure that even a reliable VPN dosen’t make any sense because the Internet here is highly spyed and those AI products are also censored here.

However , I do believe one day your elaborate product will be available to me and the others because it is such a technology that will have a great impact on the world which should never be missed and ignored. And I don’t think it should be concerned only by your members but by we users and those who disappointedly miss the chance.

At last, I hold a strong beliefe that all of us can get over this troubles in the end and chatGPT will prevail around the world . Plus , your efforts will definitely pay off !

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I’m from Vietnam. Please show me how to fix this problem. I tried to use many VPN by HMA, many phone number as US, UK, Latvia,… all of it couldn’t fix. Please help me.

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I accept your criticism: I was caught in a setup at 3 AM - the next morning I was regretful and it was directed to a single user.
If you could please read the next replies after that - I can see you are a careful reader/writer - I am open to suggestions: I understand “wannabe” has a negative connotation in some English native cultures (not mine), but I saw likes and “thanks” for the “simplification” and the victimizing user had been deleted his/her messages, I didn’t delete mine because some people think the “simplification” was useful (???) - and I was criticized already in this very forum because my deleted messages - maybe people love a quarrel.
If you could advise better words, I could edit that message - if you don’t make part of the setup, of course. And no, this is not OpenAI position - no admins here.

Yes, nothing is for free - and yes, they collect all conversations. Some words are forbidden, and the internal security system sends red flags instantaneously. However, I disagree with such a “value” point of view. ChatGPT is the advertising boy to dissipate fears about AI taking over the world, laying off millions, and turning us all into batteries. It is not the core of the project.

OpenAI was unprepared for this exponential increase in users. Even paid users have no support anymore. Take a walk through other forum threads.

I’m not so sure what is the intention of some people specifically joining ChatGPT with other free AI options like Bing AI (GPT-4) for example, with negative press comments, and several bans around the world. Why specifically is this AI project under scrutiny from national security organizations? It’s not a social network - no one will see the user’s intelligence display, it’s a one-to-one chat with software… why should it be ChatGPT?

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@bau9th9 @loveswordfightlbzh

Our nationalities don’t matter. The countries we access it from matter. This product is not mine, I am a user like you, I just got lucky - a few weeks after my first login the security changes started to change quickly.

HMA VPN is not a good choice for this case. Using Tor is not a good idea as well. The more “hacker” the access looks, the more Cloudflare will “flag”. Don’t waste your money on phones (SIM cards). One of the tests performed used a “flagged” phone, successfully - if it was only used to receive the confirmation code via SMS. We don’t know how many “flags” are allowed on the same phone.

Try to find a more accepted and reputable VPN, they advertise in the most serious videos on YouTube. The VPN must be trusted on both sides: yours (entry point) and OpenAI’s (endpoint). Even better if the VPN allows your endpoint control - chose a supported country endpoint.
Order the free trial and test if access is possible - my personal opinion: I don’t like free trials that require a credit card, so I leave the decision to you.

For a higher probability of acceptance:

  1. Install, or ask someone to do, a clean install of Linux, dual-boot. It grants little identification and is used by many developers - there is no way of banning access to Linux. Windows 10/11 has online help with MachineID identification in Registry. Try to avoid Windows, and some Apple iOS are also having access issues;
  2. We don’t know if it is possible to use a phone with an international code from an unsupported country - it would only be used for SMS with a confirmation code. It would be best to try to get a number from a supported country - there are quite a few SMS services of this type on the Internet;
  3. On Linux, (clean) install a trusted web browser like Chrome, Edge, or Opera. Accept cookies, and turn scripts off;
  4. Open a trusted email account with Google or Microsoft, preferably with the country code top-level domain (ccTLD) of the country you (or the VPN) chose as your endpoint. Enter the same phone number. Avoid using secret names in emails like “xyz123abc” - it doesn’t help at all;
  5. Open an OpenAI account - everything should match, your data, email, and phone from supported countries. If possible email confirmation code would be better, otherwise ask to send it to the phone;
  6. At the first login, click on “use your Google/Microsoft account” and allow full access to your data. Avoid lengthy logins with email and password filling - this has been found to cause some access issues. Only then fill in the confirmation code;

There is no guarantee that it will work, the most reliable VPNs allow the endpoint to verify data from the entry point.
For each access attempt: you must clear the cache and cookies of the chosen browser and change the IP address of the VPN endpoint, and perhaps yours (entry point) as well.
Don’t try multiple times on the same day - try during the low traffic period: Sunday afternoon (Pacific time - US west coast) until Monday morning (Tokyo time).

If none of that works, the options would be to look into other free AI services.
Returning to Windows (original), the best suggestion would be Microsoft BingAI (GPT-4), to take advantage of created emails, and apply for an Office account online. If you can have a Business (paid) Office account you will have access to Automate and integration with Bing AI - no questions & answers limitations.

I believe things will be better in the future. As many other AIs are coming - none of them related to the national security of any country - but for schools, universities, research, business, etc. All of us will have access to AI at some point - I believe this year - and ChatGPT will be forgotten. Good luck.

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I know - because I lived there in 2007/2008, in the city where pandemics hit first (if you can understand me), and for some reason I love it, I can’t explain why, one of the best times of my life. I have immense respect for the country - that is why I prevent mentioning countries and companies here - and make my comments long and spinning - all of this to avoid harming a place and people that I love.
The “simplification” above was a reply to someone that accused me to make many spins and don’t give a direct solution. I won’t hurt the people I decide to love.
I hope one day we all could have access to the knowledge and technologies we dream of, and I would be back in my beloved city, sit on a bench by that great river, and feel “kualei” again.

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I was able to fill in my email and date of birth, but I can’t confirm my number, when I try, this message appears:

“Your account was flagged for potential abuse. If you feel this is an error, please contact us at help.openai.com”

I don’t have another account, I’ve never used my cell phone to create Open AI accounts. This is an error, please help me to fix it. :frowning:

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Read the instructions above - it is not about you alone - it is about OpenAI changes.
Go to the top of this topic and begin from there. The first thing is to check if the country you are accessing from is a supported one. Or if it under local ban/block/suspension.

Then read further if one of the solutions apply to you.

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Hey, thanks for reply!
I’m from Brazil, there are no restrictions here, at least for now. I tried:

  • Clear cookies;
  • Login through my Iphone;
  • Sign in from another computer on the same network;
  • I also tried another mobile number and… same error. I don’t any kind use proxy.

P.S.: I’ll try the other proposed solutions later after work.
P.S.¹: I was chatting with @AlexDeM he was very attentive trying to propose solutions, I would like to thank you!

So, what really worked for me was download the Brave browser, (which a dev friend recommended) and use another email (gmail) to create the account on Open Ai.

When creating the account, I used the last option to sign in with the Google account, instead of typing the email in the first field.
I hope it helps! :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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I checked your city, I know - I will assume that you are a native. Send a pvt to me - write in pt, it will be easier for you, and we’ll check step-by-step

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Same here, I am from Bolivia, and I can’t create an account. I already tried all the workarounds above and nothing work.
I tried in a mac, in Arch based OS, Endeavour. Could someone give me a hand please?

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Bolivia is a supported country.
This is from a recent update - for Supported Countries only:

  1. Clean your computer as much as possible;
  2. Change your IP address;
  3. Install a new different (clean) browser - no privacy, no extensions. The most accepted browsers are Brave, Chrome, Edge, Opera (all confirmed) - Firefox (not fully tested yet);
  4. Close everything related to Internet and privacy, anti-virus with VPN, ad-blocker, etc.;
  5. Use the “flagged” phone for SMS confirmation code only - it is not “flagged” if you used it only once;
  6. Open a new Gmail email account (or Microsoft) - the previous email is “flagged”. Use the “(non-)flagged” phone for recover;
  7. Open a new OpenAI account - match all your data, phone, and email - wait for the confirmation code via SMS;
  8. Click on “Use my Gmail (or Microsoft) account” - allow to read all your account data - do not fill email/password;

We believe this is working in all environments: Apple, Linux, and Windows.
I hope this helps.

Please advise if you got it.

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This is your time, @quiet.job

This is from a recent update - for Supported Countries only:

  1. Clean your computer as much as possible;
  2. Change your IP address;
  3. Install a new different (clean) browser - no privacy, no extensions. The most accepted browsers are Brave, Chrome, Edge, Opera (all confirmed) - Firefox (not fully tested yet);
  4. Close everything related to the Internet and privacy, anti-virus with VPN, ad-blocker, etc.;
  5. Use the “flagged” phone for SMS confirmation code only - it is not “flagged” if you used it only once;
  6. Open a new Gmail email account (or Microsoft) - the previous email is “flagged”. Use the “(non-)flagged” phone for recover;
  7. Open a new OpenAI account - match all your data, phone, and email - wait for the confirmation code via SMS;
  8. IMPORTANT: Click on “Use my Gmail (or Microsoft) account” - allow to read all your account data - do not fill email/password;

We believe this is working in all environments: Apple, Linux, and Windows.
I hope this helps.

Please advise if you got it.

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Conseguiu resolver? Tive o mesmo problema agora a tarde

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