# The techno-optimist manifesto **URL:** \ **Category:** Community\ **Tags:** gpt-4, future\ **Created:** [October 23, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/448035 "2023-10-23T16:14:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bruce.dambrosio](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/bruce.dambrosio/32/224818_2.png) [@bruce.dambrosio](https://community.openai.com/u/bruce.dambrosio)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/448035/1 "2023-10-23T16:14:13Z")
> **[The Techno-Optimist Manifesto | Andreessen Horowitz](https://a16z.com/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/)** > > We are told that technology is on the brink of ruining everything. But we are being lied to, and the truth is so much better. Marc Andreessen presents his techno-optimist vision for the future. Coming from Marc Andreessen, it’s worth a read. Seems kind of over-the-top to me, but he does have a point. Maybe the pessimism he sees all around is because so many of ‘them’ feel increasingly left out, and it scares them? ---
**Author:** ![curt.kennedy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/curt.kennedy/32/709249_2.png) [@curt.kennedy](https://community.openai.com/u/curt.kennedy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/448035/2 "2023-10-30T20:56:46Z")
This is like the modern day Steve Ballmer “DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, …” 🤣 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/original/3X/5/4/549848ec22319b478832f11bd0335cc39896fda0.gif "Steve Ballmer Microsoft GIF - Steve Ballmer Microsoft Windows - Discover &...") ---
**Author:** ![VeitB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/veitb/32/712987_2.png) [@VeitB](https://community.openai.com/u/VeitB)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/448035/3 "2023-10-30T21:05:08Z")
Here is a (slightly NSFW) retort: > **["Techno-optimism" is a sign of V.C. crisis](https://maxread.substack.com/p/techno-optimism-is-a-sign-of-vc-crisis)** > > It's not funny, V.C.s only do this when they’re in extreme distress. > So why bother writing it all out, especially as a 5,000-word statement of purpose placed on the front page of your website? One obvious reason is marketing. ---
**Author:** ![curt.kennedy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/curt.kennedy/32/709249_2.png) [@curt.kennedy](https://community.openai.com/u/curt.kennedy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/448035/4 "2023-10-30T21:08:15Z")
Marketing and attention for sure. I like the manifesto, but the timing indicates it might be written out of desperation. I keep reading about startups failing, high interest rates, etc. Cloud profits down. ---
**Author:** ![VeitB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/veitb/32/712987_2.png) [@VeitB](https://community.openai.com/u/VeitB)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/448035/5 "2023-10-30T21:12:42Z")
This might be a simple coincidence with the current economic cycle (edit: because the sentiment in the Andreseen blog post is nothing new). But yes, the marketing efforts of a single person/company should be clearly distinct from the developer’s interests, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![curt.kennedy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/curt.kennedy/32/709249_2.png) [@curt.kennedy](https://community.openai.com/u/curt.kennedy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/448035/6 "2023-10-30T21:31:58Z")
There is a large codependence between start-ups and the venture capitalists. So when when you read the punchline at the end: > It’s time to be a Techno-Optimist. > It’s time to build. The first thing that comes to mind is the VC’s are in trouble, start-ups are floundering, and lots of somethings need to be created and monetized for the whole thing to sustain itself. ---
**Author:** ![bruce.dambrosio](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/bruce.dambrosio/32/224818_2.png) [@bruce.dambrosio](https://community.openai.com/u/bruce.dambrosio)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/448035/7 "2023-10-31T01:06:25Z")
I’m not so sure. Like the Koch bros (although not necessarily from the same politics), I think he is playing a longer-term cultural/philosophical-warfare game here. ---
**Author:** ![trailmarker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/trailmarker/32/257554_2.png) [@trailmarker](https://community.openai.com/u/trailmarker)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 8:16am UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/448035/8 "2023-11-23T08:16:53Z")
Marc Andreessen, briefly: I love the nine tenths of the law that defends my property rights without regard for injustice, but I really hate that other tenth. In all seriousness, it’s an idiotic article. The man doesn’t seem to realise that regulatory law is also a technology. ---
**Author:** ![FMoura](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/fmoura/32/349356_2.png) [@FMoura](https://community.openai.com/u/FMoura)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 5:42am UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/the-techno-optimist-manifesto/448035/9 "2024-04-15T05:42:37Z")
Is totaly possible write the truth for selfish goals. The Manifest in one thing and the autor intentions behind is other thing. If I discovery the cure of cancer because i have the intention to be the new secretary of the WHO my discovery still saving lifes besides my selfish intentions. For me the Manifest is a really good philosophical view about the technology and the society.