You won’t get anywhere in life if you don’t take risks.

I think you are completely overthinking this.

Nobody cares about crappy ad-infested web scrapers. Powerful web scrapers have existed long before GPT was popular. Believe me. Using ChatGPT w/ plugins to scrape web pages is like using a 16 wheeler to haul a couch.

People with money do care about their web pages being scraped by ChatGPT, and then passing their ad profit to the plugin developer. You are doing everybody a favor, including OpenAI by “taking a risk”. Otherwise, you are only doing low-effort developers a favor by letting them continue.

If you are too afraid to take action, atleast say what these plugins are so somebody else can make the decision for you.

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ok my guy, I actually already did mention which plugin it was. I just did it low key.
“…its one of like… 2 web scraping plugins, so its too obvious…”

Im not sure what the word is… i dont think its “joke” though.

I’m not going to play games or bother reading in-between your lines for something so trivial.

After reading your other post, which is clearly a web scraping program written by ChatGPT: please do not add yet another web scraper plugin, or anything which involves ads. As mentioned it’s against the policy and brings nothing beneficial to the plugin eco-system.

There’s a lot of room for beneficial, innovative plugin solutions. If you continue to make an effort, and not take the easy route I guarantee you will make something very cool that other people will want to use. Something that isn’t at the expense of other people/companies.

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There’s currently 735 plugins in the plugin store, I’m not going to dig through all of them to find the one you’re talking about.

If you’re aware of a plugin which is serving ads you should share the name so it can be looked into and addressed.

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i honestly had no idea there were 735 web scaping plugins available on the web store. For that reason, I will stand corrected. I should have versed myself better on the subject before i spoke, and i apologize.

I’m not sure what you mean by “735 web scraping plugins”. If you have concerns regarding a plugin, please contact support@openai.com with the name and your issue with it.

Your original topic was regarding a plugin with adverts, that would be a form of monetisation, which is currently not allowed.

im aware. Thus i made a post to reinforce it, because i did not see much traffic. I understand that many are eager to make money on what they create. However, Its important that we all run in the same race.

aye?

Someone just gave me a warning never to speak of this again. So i wont.

Completely. I think you have some good ideas and I think it’s very cool that you’re programming. I hope to see more.

First, you know you are misrepresenting what I wrote. There are 735 plugins in the Plugins Store. Using the search box, the term scrap filters all but one plugin, Scraper.

In my limited testing I was not able to get the Scraper plugin to serve an advertisement.

You wrote of the plugin,

So, either

  1. I need to send a lot more requests to Scraper to trigger the serving of an advertisement.
  2. The plugin you are referring to is no longer in the Plugins Store for some reason.
  3. There exists another plugin you’re referring to, somewhere, in those other 734 plugins, which cam be used for web scraping but doesn’t use the term “scrape” or “scraping” in its name or description, and I would need to dig through them all and try to divine which one you meant.

Looking into it further without some simple, straightforward, help from you is a huge time-sink.

In any event, you posted your topic expressing some concerns you about ads in plugins. If you won’t say which plugin, then I’m not entirely sure what the point of your initial post is.

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… I mean its pretty easy, you instruct your GPT-4 to conduct research by specified criteria, and include an instruction to maintain state persistence during the trial.

If you instruct it correctly how to conduct the research, including how to search via parallel terminology then its quite easy to do. Use the chat session as an NLP log, the auto recon will proc when necessary.

Look, my friend, no one is here to jump through hoops for you—especially me.

You brought forward an interesting topic which deserves more eyes on it but you seem more interested in playing games than in actually discussing the issue at hand.

If you want other people to look into this so they can determine if it requires further action, great—share the name of the plugin.

If you don’t want anyone else to look into this, that’s also great, but it then becomes very confusing why you would open the topic to begin with.

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im sorry for upsetting you. I wont mention this topic again.

It was a good topic. It does invoke some feelings because it is a touchy subject. Both scraping and advertising. Combining the two is black hat territory. You have a lot of interesting ideas and it’s a perfect time (so is tomorrow) to implement them.

Exactly. I love talking about this. It is very important, and it will continue being important.

@generalbadwolf
Maybe we can have this discussion again, as I think this is done. You nailed it on the head with your intro.

well… scraping is a harsh way to put it when you just want GPT to find a manpage.

Agreed. But I have to ask: what benefit do you find in grabbing, parsing and extracting the elements of the page as opposed to just opening it in your browser?

But, agreed. A lot of people (myself included) use automation software like Appium to test our applications and websites for testing. The sad reality is that people abuse the same technologies to scrape content that websites put together for other businesses to use.

It’s becoming an increasing issue, as noted by recent social media conglomerates locking up their API service and restricting viewing access)

umm… Thats actually a really good question.

In this case, its about automation - In my case i enjou experimenting with prompt templates for internet research.

For example: if theres something i dont know, and need help with - it doesnt do well just to instruct the bot to go straight to the page with the answer, because if i knew where that page was, why would i not know the answer. Right? So in this case, having an extra “hand” so to speak when looking for something is useful. But without the correct instruction, its just gonna find what youve already found. Does that make sense?

Ultimately my point is “assisted browsing” is not the same thing as “scraping”

Me too. I would be lying if I said that I had never built a form of web scraper using Python & BeautifulSoup

:laughing: Yeah kind of a chicken and the egg situation

Yeah, it makes sense and it ties in with your point.

Totally. You mentioned web “scraping” plugins. That, and “ads” is just a brutal combination.

Just to make sure, ChatGPT does have a Web Browsing module, it’s just been offline for a week or so now. Which does exactly that: assisted browsing. It’s a great tool.

well… yes, scraping is a term… and in this case its a scraper.
scrapers can be browsers… unless of course, you’re scraping. its sort of a verb and a noun… i think.