Is there any way to revert to the May 3 (or earlier) GPT-4 version?

Is there any way to revert to the May 3 (or earlier) GPT-4 version?

The enormous downgrade in logic/reasoning between the May 3 and May 12 update has essentially killed the functionality of GPT4 for my unique use cases. Whereas prior to May 12, I was able to reliably produce incredible, high-quality results & very infrequently had to regenerate or make corrects, I now find myself frequently receiving straight-up gobbledygook answers from GPT4. I get output that begins mid-sentence or produces fake references/fake data… I am seeing errors in the most basic logic and math problems. Honestly, it is such as frustrating step backward that it is enough to make me want to quit my subscription until this bull**** gets ironed out. It’s like i’m talking to GPT3.5 or a concussed pre-May12-update GPT4…

OK, so, again, is there any way to revert to an earlier (superior) GPT-4 version? Thank you.


OK so if you’re reading this, you are likely aware of the problem. The May 12 version was a major downgrade from May 3. I thought it couldn’t get any worse, but now I am even more dismayed by the latest “May 24 Version” which appears to be another major step in the wrong direction.

I am observing even greater loss of reasoning between the May 12 and May 23 version! Hard to overstate how frustrating this is! The May 23 version in many respects appears to follow instructions more poorly than GPT3.5 at this point and consistently fails to solve basic logic problems.

The lack of transparency from OpenAI about what each release actually entails (Natalie’s release changes blog is a farce) & how/what paying customers can actually except is disturbing.

@clintatelier said it best:

Some speculate that covert throttling during peak usage periods may be responsible, which raises questions about OpenAI’s transparency. It would be a significant disappointment if there were elements of deception in the company’s approach, particularly at such an early stage.

I trust that OpenAI will seriously consider these concerns and address them promptly. Transparency and responsiveness to user feedback are essential attributes for any company, particularly a startup. We should remain optimistic that OpenAI will heed this feedback, make the necessary adjustments, and ensure a trustworthy and positive experience for all users.


With all due respect, I’m not sure how your reply is relevant to this thread’s topic.

The “article” that you shared does not add any value to the conversation. The researchers don’t even specify which version of GPT4 they used, so how can any insights gained from this research possibly be expected to be transferable/generalizable to a discussion of GPT4-May3 vs. GPT4-May12/24 reasoning capabilities?

However, if you’re suggesting that API GPT-4 users are able to revert to previous, more-capable versions of GPT4, then I would welcome elaboration.

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I am not sure if there’s an English language barrier here (& if there is, I am sorry and perhaps I can help you understand better outside of this thread), but I don’t think you understand what you’re talking about.

The authors of white paper you attached clearly state: “We also compare GPT-4’s performance to those of previous LLMs, most notably ChatGPT, which is a fine-tuned version of (an improved) GPT-3”.

If you’re just trolling, please stop because you’re hijacking this thread with unhelpful nonsense. Making false claims (e.g., that ChatGPT is a trained GPT-4) & suggesting my knowledge is somehow flawed while only being able to vaguely allude to a 155 pages of non-peer-reviewed research as proof is real neckbeard behavior. Furthermore, making unsubstantiated claims like below accomplishes nothing & only further derails this thread.

There’s obviously no way to revert to a previous ChatGPT version.

Lastly, you keep editing your replies, which makes it even more difficult to try & follow whatever it is that you’re trying to say.

In sum, if you’re not seeking to be helpful here, why are you replying to this thread? If you are seeking to be helpful, then why are you being a dick?