https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai-o1-preview/ https://openai.com/index/openai-o1-system-card/ https://openai.com/index/openai-o1-mini-advancing-cost-efficient-reasoning/ https://openai.com/index/learning-to-reason-with-llms/ We’ve developed a new series of AI models designed to spend …

[image] An absolutely pointless breaking change :frowning: Not only is it pointless… It will be nearly impossible to know if you should use max_tokens or max_completion_tokens when calling Azure Open AI… That’s literally the one change they made to the API… WTF???

All the more reason to just use the OpenAI API directly I guess, I’d imagine it has something to do with the way the new model uses tokens.

[image] trenton.dambrowitz: I’d imagine it has something to do with the way the new model uses tokens. No they marked it as deprecated for all models… Every single OpenAI consumer now needs to change the word max_tokens to max_completion_tokens. That’s just dumb…

ANyone else not have access to the new models (with a Plus acct.)

Anyone experiencing this issue with the o1-preview-2024-09-12 model? Timeout: Request timed out: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='api.openai.com', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=600)

You can share your experiences and ask questions in the official announcement topic, too: [image] New reasoning models: OpenAI o1-preview and o1-mini Announcements I’m Nikunj, PM for the OpenAI API. I’m pleased to share with you our new series of models, OpenAI o1. We’ve …

Yeah but many of us are screwed over on getting access. tier 5 required for either model. ChatGPT even limits usage to 30 messages a WEEK which is crazy. While all the elites get to use it and get a head start us normal AI Devs get screwed.

To be fair, this model can be churning a massive amount of tokens that you can’t even see. So your input may be 500 tokens, the output is 500, but you get billed for 10,500 output tokens. This is controllable, but let’s be real. If completely unleashed, people would just try it without implementing…

The amount of tokens (10,500) is fine. That’s what most agents do for example when solving a complex prompt and this new model makes me wonder how much better agents can be with a model like this. The elites get access and get to be experts on it before us normal people get access to the models. We …

Agreed. It’s unfair to give this to people who paid more. The depth of your pocket is synonymous to “trust” according to OpenAI. They may be right, who knows. [image] jksoftware1: We are trying to create products to compete with the elites products which is a 100% lost battle when they get suc…

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