# Gpt-4.1-mini api knowledge cutoff

**URL:** <https://community.openai.com/t/gpt-4-1-mini-api-knowledge-cutoff/1260442>\
**Category:** Bugs\
**Tags:** gpt-4, api\
**Created:** [May 14, 2025, 4:39am UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/gpt-4-1-mini-api-knowledge-cutoff/1260442 "2025-05-14T04:39:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![bharadwaj2113](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/bharadwaj2113/32/473229_2.png) [@bharadwaj2113](https://community.openai.com/u/bharadwaj2113)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 4:39am UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/gpt-4-1-mini-api-knowledge-cutoff/1260442/1 "2025-05-14T04:39:42Z")

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I’ve recently tried to update my production code with the latest gpt models. I tested the knowledge cutoff date for the model ‘gpt-4.1-mini-2025-04-14’ and I only found it to be up to Jun 2024. At least, this is the response I got when I asked a question “Who won the champions trophy 2025?”

I don’t know if this is a bug. I’m attaching the screenshot to this thread.

 ![Screenshot 2025-05-14 100449](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/original/4X/e/3/2/e32f02750c08365e7b2bb1de314fc714c55dbc78.png)

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**Author:** ![polepole](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/polepole/32/740575_2.png) [@polepole](https://community.openai.com/u/polepole)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 4:47am UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/gpt-4-1-mini-api-knowledge-cutoff/1260442/2 "2025-05-14T04:47:18Z")

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Hi, welcome to the forum!

Model update date is not knowledge cutoff date:

> [https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-4.1](https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-4.1)

 ![polepole-1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/original/4X/8/2/1/821f00bfc10fb78509245e94be96005af10da038.png)

> [https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-4.1-mini](https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-4.1-mini)

 ![polepole-2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/original/4X/2/7/b/27b8187d40a3481e2e14503be1a3effca34e4773.png)

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**Author:** ![merefield](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/merefield/32/14812_2.png) [@merefield](https://community.openai.com/u/merefield)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 8:32am UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/gpt-4-1-mini-api-knowledge-cutoff/1260442/3 "2025-05-14T08:32:12Z")

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In general you should use the language model mostly as language processor and [add tools](https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/function-calling?api-mode=responses) to retrieve such information so that you can cope with instances where users ask questions whose answers lie beyond training dates.

I asked 4.1 nano this via [my bot](https://github.com/merefield/discourse-chatbot) and it first checked the local forum then performed a web search and appears to have got the right answer. Both of those actions are facilitated by tools I’ve added explicitly in the code and passed the information about to the LLM as part of every call.
