It easy greedy companyes collecting all money 
from others using ai . But you think about one person collect all world money and oters dont have . What happened automatically there no byers to buy, cause anyone has no money to buy it. It cause automatically system stop. How to prevent , need to taxes more in AI base or use companyis . Someone use more ai base need to more tax.
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But, I’m thinking when everything will go so much automated, no body will have job, who will have money to buy their services. These companies which are automating everything using AI is printing their own death certificate.
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You’re talking about a tiny percentage of software engineers…
AI inside NVidia GPUs now: Let the eera of AI Begiiiinnnnn!!!
As a CS student who is graduating in a year, it terrifies me! Job market is already terrible as it is, and now im not sure how this is going to affect it!
I’m pretty sure you’re sure how this is going to affect it.
Just a year ago today GPT-4 was announced, now we’re here, you’re (presumably) graduating in May 2025, 14.5 months from now.
My spouse has a friend with a child starting college in Fall 2025. Their goal is to go to law school after graduating from university, so starting in Fall 2029 and graduating at the start of Summer 2032.
No one was happy with me when I suggested plumbing would be a better career path…
Remember, this—today—is the worst AI will ever be, plan accordingly.
Tools like this aren’t going to replace junior developers, but tools like this are going to displace them. One junior developer with generative AI tools today is easily worth two (likely more) junior developers without. In a year? How many junior developers can one with a generative AI assistant replace then?
Make no mistake, we’re on the precipice of an apocalypse-level upheaval in all fields of knowledge-work.
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They are only thinking about how their own businesses will make more money. Corporates have been trying to get rid of programmers for decades, they believe we are overpaid for pushing buttons.
The effects on the economy as a whole is never considered. If every job is replaced with AI who will have the money to purchase goods and services? There is a point of diminishing returns
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But, I’m thinking when everything will go so much automated, no body will have job, who will have money to buy their services. These companies which are automating everything using AI is printing their own death certificate.
The future doesn’t use money. Fully autonomous systems are more in favour of resource based economies where you’d have small clans of people who are the descendants these companies CEOs in charge of their own system which provides everything they need.
Resources would be acquired not with money but with autonomous mining and transport, colonisation, forcible eviction of clanless/systemless populations and war and conquest between clans and each clan’s autonomous system. There may also be trade of rare resources between clans where conquest isn’t presently viable.
The general population will become redundant. Barbarians in the wild if you will.
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That it fixed just a deprecation error is much less impressive though. It’s just a function rename.
Nothing new
https://sweep.dev/ is similar
in my experience it just waste my time and fails
These people try to attack too broad problems using a bunch of hacks/LLM plumbing that does not work in practice
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I assume you’re referring to the Frey & Osborne paper?
Which specifically was not a prediction, as stated by the authors,
Our study wasn’t even a prediction. It was an estimate of how exposed existing jobs are to recent developments in artificial intelligence and mobile robotics. It said nothing about the pace at which jobs will be automated away. What it did suggest is that 47% of jobs are automatable from a technological capabilities point of view.
If you’re referring to a different paper, I’d be happy to read it.
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Yes, I was referring to that paper.
I apologize, the paper was not about predictions.
I’m not sure what you mean here.
You wrote,
But they did not make those predictions. The paper was about susceptibility of various jobs to computerization.
I’m just not entirely sure what point you’re trying to make. Can you please spell it out?
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I was confusing the susceptibility of various jobs to computerization with the outlook that they would be displaced or replaced by automation.
There was no intent to cause confusion, but I apologize for the replies based on inaccurate information.
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I will be very careful in the future about the incorrect use of words such as “I beg your pardon” and “I apologize.”
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You’re fine, no worries.
English is often a pretty dumb language.
I just wanted to ensure I was understanding what your perspective was, rather than further complicating things by making incorrect assumptions.
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I’m not too impressed with Devin. I have used LLMs extensively and they help me out a lot. Mostly with remembering utilities as I jump around languages. Freaking love Copilot with Rust as it covers a lot of my boilerplating.
In my experience however giving them the wheel never works out as cleanly as these demos portray. Will it eventually work? Hell yeah it will. Is this it? Hell no. I would get a Rabbit device before I hire Devin.
Anyways. I’m excited to see him in real action. Not in these closed testing environments where they are coddled and treated in the way that the developers know will work.
I would love to see a project manager try to use Devin. “Uhhh yeah can we connect Monday to Zapier to read receipts on Whatsapp? But sometimes the address is wrong, so we’ll need to fix that. Uhhh… Yeah and the person will edit the message to fix it, and then sometimes there will be a comment from me detailing the issue”. Oh, wait, it may also be in Gmail.
Good freaking luck Devin. This was literally one of my job requests.
Now if Devin is something like $5/hr then maybe. I could see myself using it to start (as all new technologies that “assist” to eventually “take over”). Would be nice to have Devin prepare the frameworks. But… I mean… I just use an LLM for this lol and it would be much cheaper
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I remember RAD (Rapid Application Development) back in the 1990’s. My boss at the time comes running in with a VB app where he put a button on the screen that popped up a message box. 30 or so years later I think he’s up to hello Saturn.
I would really like to see my current employer try to make even the simplest useful app for our users. Either OpenAI would probably cut him off after the second meeting or he would fire OpenAI for not getting the job done.
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Will AI SE Devin handle security with high quality? If it can write generative code what framework will it use test those, specially sensitive applications like aircraft maintenance tool, financial sector apps.!?
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I think VSCode CoPilot Autocomplete use GPT 3.5 T?
I think it’s only fair to compare VSC-CP with Devin once it uses GPT-4 T.
I’ve seen many takes on YouTube and they are all saying:
- very impressive interface
- can’t judge yet as no-one has had fully hands on independently and they ask for ideas to demo themselves.
- almost certainly breaks down with complex tasks
- LLM’s still fail with very basic stuff
- can only imagine the bugs this thing will create, omg
what scares me still is the possibility someone will create something with a tool like this that has serious safety problems.
I spoke to a train guard today: the software on their train is bugged and the drivers door opens without any reason at 60mph, because of a bug … just apparently randomly.
(NB I’m not saying the train’s software is produced with AI involved)
LLM produced software is only going to create more of these scenarios as too many people shortcut projects with AI.
Worse if safety critical software actually uses outputs from LLMs (that would be complete business suicide!)
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