# ChatGPT latest perfromance

**URL:** <https://community.openai.com/t/chatgpt-latest-perfromance/883472>\
**Category:** ChatGPT\
**Tags:** chatgpt\
**Created:** [July 27, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/chatgpt-latest-perfromance/883472 "2024-07-27T16:08:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![0xbronko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/e19adc/32.png) [@0xbronko](https://community.openai.com/u/0xbronko)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/chatgpt-latest-perfromance/883472/1 "2024-07-27T16:08:45Z")

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Hi,

Has anyone recently noticed a rapid decrease in ChatGPT’s performance (all models)?

About a month ago, I was super happy with ChatGPT. It really helped me greatly with coding and other work-related tasks. However, over the past three weeks, it has become so bad that I can barely use it anymore. I even feel that the GPT-3 model was better.

Does anyone know more about this?

I’m seriously considering canceling my subscription and testing other LLMs.

Best,  
Bronko

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**Author:** ![anon10827405](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@anon10827405](https://community.openai.com/u/anon10827405)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/chatgpt-latest-perfromance/883472/2 "2024-07-27T16:47:02Z")

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I have been a fan of ChatGPT-4 for any in-depth discussions, using gpt-4o & mini only for background services (RAG, parsing, transforming) and ChatGPT4-o for quick drop-in chats.

I was surprised to see that ChatGPT-4 is now listed as a “Legacy Model”.

There has been a lot of optimizations leading to much less cost & I believe the focus is on casual, conversational, actionable models (Think Google Home & Alexa on steroids).

Apparently the “voice update” is coming soon, which I was reading has sometimes a latency response time of **\<400ms** I believe immediately after finishing speaking. Absolutely insane. I have dabbled myself a bit in these AI conversational voice assistants and the best I could do was a second and it was definitely **not** production-ready.

Going back on track, I’m hoping (and somewhat seeing) ChatGPT-5 around the corner which apparently has PhD-level intelligence and hopefully will also mean that we can return to having powerful, in-depth conversations. So these massive coding projects will be a bit more steerable and coherent.

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tl;dr The focus seems to be on casual conversational models & I think there is a general consensus that gpt-4o & mini just don’t quite hit the mark for in-depth coherent technical conversations, but GPT-5 will hopefully be released soon.

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**Author:** ![0xbronko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/e19adc/32.png) [@0xbronko](https://community.openai.com/u/0xbronko)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/chatgpt-latest-perfromance/883472/3 "2024-08-02T18:07:35Z")

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Understood but I really got way worse. Lots of logic and context mistakes. I use it for coding everyday but it is giving so many wrong answers that I’m now quicker again to code everything by myself…