This is absolutely true, and I am unsubscribing from plus right now.
I used to use it for coding and tech questions, it helped me somewhat in 2023, and I figured I could stay on the service as it improved since it was already almost acceptable. I failed to realize that it could go the other way too, they could make it worse.
This is a real wake up call, I’m going to be much more cautious about AI subscription models from here on out.
I also really didn’t expect it to get worse. I thought it could only get better, but I was wrong too… I figured that it got worse regarding programming or coding stuff which was a big part for me besides text generation and SEO tasks etc. It got worse in every shape and form I used to use it.
Yes, I am one of the first ChatGPT users, and since January 2024, the service has been declining. Now, even the audio chat doesn’t work properly because if you tap to stop and try to speak again, you end up speaking alone. You need to power cycle the chat to make it work again. I’m tired of it, so I canceled my Plus subscription a week ago.
I agree. It’s so FRUSTRATING when ChatGPT can’t follow simple orders. Like, I’m saying it can’t use certain words, and it does, I say “no stylizing text”, it uses bold and cursive, I explain to it what it did wrong, it continues to repeat the mistake. It’s an indescribable level of frustration.
ChatGPT is an absolute nightmare, the level is so low it is very frustrating. It can’t follow simple instructions, can’t be consistant on the output start to become dumb after 3 to 5 requests. It has become an absolute trash. And the playground/ API is no different.
Are you guys using 4o by accident?
Nobody here is talking about which version.
4o is dramatically worse than 4, which is still available. And they will quietly downgrade your chat. Remember to check, when it strangely degrades in quality.
Yeah. Totally. And then I realised it has started switching me to 4o-mini automatically recently and I hadn’t noticed. It’s worth checking what model it is automatically starting you with before you embark on something more complex. I gave up in frustration yesterday and subscribed to Claude to get the job done, and after the question from @kazvorpal I took a look and - well, that’s frustrating - defaulted on 4o-mini. You might have thought that if you are having to redo stuff time and time again, it might suggest you try the next model up - that in itself would probably stop them bleeding customers, because when people are focused on getting something done, they don’t necessarily look to see if the default has changed suddenly.
Having said that, I have also been using 4o and have noticed a considerable degradation over time. And 4 cannot cope with long scripts at all, it seems - which is why I actually found 4o to be a step forwards (for a while) - being able to keep lots of source code ‘files’ in context and coordinate them well. There was a sweet spot back in around May time, and then it all gradually fell apart - no idea why - I suspect they’ve dumbed it down so they bleed less money, but that doesn’t keep you customers. Seems like the next model is struggling to be performant enough to be usable though.
Looks like I’ll be flipping between Claude and ChatGPT for some time. Which isn’t a biggie - often generating several things on-the-go so just means more flexibility, if less money in my bank at the end of the month.
I do feel silly though. ChatGPT-mini on a complex coding task isn’t going to cut it!
There are indeed something going on but…
My fix(doesn’t always work) is usually to disable or clear memories. Sometimes ChatGPT is using something it ‘Learned’ from you to answer something you asked.
a confirm, and glad I am not the only one seeing this. chatGPT is soooo bad from month to month, that it gets on my nerves. it seams we helped them train it for their own use, and now they deliberately plugged it to such a dumb version…
it does not follow so many instructions, it lies, it repeats itself, it ignores, it seams this is deliberate at times, targeted even.
i do not trust this company anymore unfortunately. And I rooted for them soo soo much…
another example where power corrupts the integrity of man…
this is sad and very concerning…
emailed them many times. they gave me the typical corporate reply but nothing else…they enjoy the money they get from us but forgot the respect…sad