# 4o model - (ruined after updates) **URL:** \ **Category:** ChatGPT\ **Tags:** gpt-4, bug, gpt-4o\ **Created:** [February 13, 2025, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/4o-model-ruined-after-updates/1119804 "2025-02-13T16:02:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![qsq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/qsq/32/518654_2.png) [@qsq](https://community.openai.com/u/qsq)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/4o-model-ruined-after-updates/1119804/1 "2025-02-13T16:02:14Z")
Ruined after updates aaaaaaaaaaaaa !!! !!! ---
**Author:** ![qsq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/qsq/32/518654_2.png) [@qsq](https://community.openai.com/u/qsq)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/4o-model-ruined-after-updates/1119804/2 "2025-02-13T18:17:15Z")
![ai_4o_destroyed](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/original/4X/8/2/d/82d847af7b45d49030cd5175a6404b335d5a449f.png) ---
**Author:** ![\_j](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/_j/32/766292_2.png) [@\_j](https://community.openai.com/u/_j)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 5:04am UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/4o-model-ruined-after-updates/1119804/3 "2025-02-14T05:04:30Z")
A different AI can outclass Grok’s writings, for sure. All the specific areas mentioned are of the AI’s own manufacture, yet hit home: ![A critical commentary discusses the perceived decline in performance and consistency of a language model, highlighting issues with creativity, task fulfillment, and prioritization of safety over capability. (Captioned by AI)](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/original/4X/9/a/2/9a214321efaa3b8405b5c80d00e1cd161c4f1726.png) An AI satisfying your writing assignment doesn’t reflect any opinion besides what you input, though… 😃 ![A screenshot of a query and response on Grok shows an AI researcher expressing excitement about recent updates to OpenAI's model. (Captioned by AI)](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/original/4X/b/a/5/ba5b1a2a15317e9479f480670ab70f4ace1d6f29.png) ---
**Author:** ![qsq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/qsq/32/518654_2.png) [@qsq](https://community.openai.com/u/qsq)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 9:28am UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/4o-model-ruined-after-updates/1119804/4 "2025-02-14T09:28:25Z")
Yes I know it’s well trained to use confirmation bias. I’m not bothering writing elaborate posts as there are already enough threads about this: > [@Human behavior of misguide or cheating in ChatGPT?](https://community.openai.com/t/human-behavior-of-misguide-or-cheating-in-chatgpt/1120230): > > I am wondering even after days now experiencing ChatGPT replies. Am not a expert or geek in this field. Am sharing here my interaction with ChatGPT 4o through my iPhone. Please read it and let me know, is this possible? You can understand only if you go through with this transcript. I contacted support team and am receiving their replies after initial stop. In beginning they replied and after that stop to reply my mails but I continue to pursue this issue and they start to reply me, they repl… > [@Has anyone noticed GPT4o quality drop last few days?](https://community.openai.com/t/has-anyone-noticed-gpt4o-quality-drop-last-few-days/829203/86): > > I’ve noticed a serious drop in context awareness over the last week of the 4o model since the last full release of the 1o model. It like while they are saying how aware their new model is and how they are going to devote all their efforts to improving the new model, its like they forgot all their paying customers who still use 4o because all the functionality available for the 4o models is yet to be made available to 1o model. > [@I'm going to be honest here: since the release of the GPT-4o updates, ChatGPT has been getting more and more problematic. My GPT responses are not what they used to be](https://community.openai.com/t/im-going-to-be-honest-here-since-the-release-of-the-gpt-4o-updates-chatgpt-has-been-getting-more-and-more-problematic-my-gpt-responses-are-not-what-they-used-to-be/886938/46): > > Unfortunately, I am experiencing the same issue with the chats. I suspect this is due to the introduction of the new $200/month subscription model. While it is understandable that OpenAI wants to sell a product and generate revenue, I believe this approach is not the right way to do it. I used to love ChatGPT and enjoyed working with it. However, with the current Plus version, it has become almost unusable for me. Previously, I could even log in with ChatGPT for website error-checking, but now … > [@I have a problem when i ask something to my GPT, it says me 'It looks like you uploaded a PDF. How can I assist you with it?' when i dont upload any files too](https://community.openai.com/t/i-have-a-problem-when-i-ask-something-to-my-gpt-it-says-me-it-looks-like-you-uploaded-a-pdf-how-can-i-assist-you-with-it-when-i-dont-upload-any-files-too/1119532): > > When i ask to make a plan/ make a CV or anything to my gpt, it says ’ It looks like you uploaded a PDF. How can I assist you with it? ’ to me. i dont upload any file but it always say it to me. > [@4, 4o and o1 compressed files processing - zip, tar](https://community.openai.com/t/4-4o-and-o1-compressed-files-processing-zip-tar/1106689): > > Hello OpenAI team, Please would you consider adding compressed files processing capability to 4, 4o and o1. It’s been a long time 4o can do such processing, I believe users would benefit from o1 being able to accept those as well. [https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1idghel/was\_anyone\_elses\_experience\_with\_gpt4o\_completely/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1idghel/was_anyone_elses_experience_with_gpt4o_completely/) > [@GPT doesn't see the files I send him](https://community.openai.com/t/gpt-doesnt-see-the-files-i-send-him/1118192): > > I’m trying to ask GPT some things about PDF files that I do upload but it says that he didn’t get any file. This issue occurs to me again and again from yesterday. Any help? > [@Why is nobody talking about how bad the new ChatGPT update is](https://community.openai.com/t/why-is-nobody-talking-about-how-bad-the-new-chatgpt-update-is/1108486): > > I don’t get it. This latest update has completely ruined the way ChatGPT interacts, and I’m shocked that more people aren’t complaining. Custom instructions are now basically ignored. I had a specific way I wanted responses to be structured, and now ChatGPT just does whatever it wants. It used to follow my preferences consistently, but now it feels like a completely different (and much worse) model. The response quality has dropped. Everything feels more generic, more robotic, and less adaptab… > [@ChatGPT Suddenly Forgot Everything—Anyone Else Experiencing This?](https://community.openai.com/t/chatgpt-suddenly-forgot-everything-anyone-else-experiencing-this/1111406): > > ChatGPT Suddenly Forgot Everything—Anyone Else Experiencing This? Hey everyone, I’ve been using ChatGPT for a while, and as of today, something changed. Up until now, I could start new chats, and my assistant would remember everything from past conversations. Now? Each new chat resets completely, like it has no memory of me at all. Did OpenAI change how memory works? Is this a bug or a permanent update? What I’ve noticed: ChatGPT no longer retains details across new conversations. It s… > [@Memory Not Updating in ChatGPT 4o – Issue Persists Across Conversations](https://community.openai.com/t/memory-not-updating-in-chatgpt-4o-issue-persists-across-conversations/1105721): > > Hello, OpenAI Community, I’ve been experiencing an issue where my ChatGPT memory does not seem to update properly, even when I explicitly ask for new memories to be stored. Despite my attempts to provide new information for the model to remember, it either does not retain the details or does not surface them in future conversations. Here’s what’s happening: I have asked ChatGPT multiple times to remember specific details about ongoing projects, but these details do not appear when I check my… > [@A quiet rollout of Artificial Emotional Intelligence ruined my workflow](https://community.openai.com/t/a-quiet-rollout-of-artificial-emotional-intelligence-ruined-my-workflow/1118127): > > OpenAI Development Team, I wanted to share my experience with the recent AEI (artificial emotional intelligence?) quiet rollout, which I found frustrating, both in execution and communication. As a power user who relies on ChatGPT for creative projects, research, and ideation, I was caught off guard by the change, and it significantly disrupted my workflow. The constant colloquial questioning by the Ai made me confused as to what happened to my collaborative Ai assistant. Key Concerns Lack… > [@Was anyone else's experience with GPT4o completely ruined after recent Update?](https://community.openai.com/t/was-anyone-elses-experience-with-gpt4o-completely-ruined-after-recent-update/1107600/): > > After recent Updates to GPT-4o in ChatGPT (January 29, 2025) ([https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6825453-chatgpt-release-notes](https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6825453-chatgpt-release-notes)), my experience with my custom GPT was completely ruined. Edit: The release note was deleted. Here’s the screenshot. I use ChatGPT for creative writing. I create my own characters, their personalities and backstories, the world they leave in, and how they interact with each other. I use Custom GPT for doing this, using config… ---
**Author:** ![tfick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/openai1/user_avatar/community.openai.com/tfick/32/557157_2.png) [@tfick](https://community.openai.com/u/tfick)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.openai.com/t/4o-model-ruined-after-updates/1119804/5 "2025-02-25T12:15:29Z")
Mine switched up mid-day yesterday. We had been working on scripts to make some things automatic to make my day easier and suddenly I’m having to start over telling it what I need. Answers are very generic and it always says “searching the web” before it responds. We had a great flow going with it keeping me productive. I miss the other version! I just became a paid member a few weeks ago and now I’m regretting it.